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Reagent Photo: [h] Male homosexual. strongly overloaded with feminine characteristics.

1. Need for personal affection, (varies from simple friendly impulses to the Eroto-manias and cravings of love. Associates generally with tenderness and feminine modes of thinking.

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Reagent Photo: [s] Sadistic perpetrator.

2. Need for activity, assertion, (varies from enjoyment of starting the day to mental and physical activities to hardness and actual events tinged with sadism. Associates with hardness and masculine modes of thinking.

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Reagent Photo:[e] Epileptics in inter-paroxsmal over-controlled phase.

Need for Control of Emotions. (Varies in amounts of control and related ethical restrains, from reasonable practical to moments over enrolled to that under-controlled and good thinking/behaving nature shutting off. Here tendencies to being ‘Good Abel’ or polar to the envious hateful ‘Cain’ may assert, depending on the compromises available to be used.

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Reagent photo :[hy] Need to show emotional and self displaying aspects of self.

Need to show on self, to be admired and to express ( varies from shyness, tactful showing of desire for attention to strong exhibitionistic acts or desires.

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Reagent Photo:: [k] Narcissistic self-contained Catatonics..

Need to include in the mind-image index certain signifiers of ‘what and who I believe I am’. This varies from a usable and adaptive self-space to Narcissistic isolations where the self is far more important than others.)

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Reagent Photo: [p] Paranoids in the clinical state of over projection out shifting of repressed desires,

Need to participate, to find mental and emotional satisfying ways of unfolding ones needs, strivings, and inclinations.

(varies from satisfactory balanced rational and effective modes of adjustment that can in some become over rationalistic or turn to projected forms of blaming of others or even as to move one to the borders of paranoia.)

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Reagent Photo: [d] depressives,

Need for ‘Objects’ with bonding Power (Here objects means those persons or things that when the are lost to you it is painful, and literally depressing. These can be small things, big things, money things or minor or major loved persons. Mood depressive when any such specially-keyed type bond is threatened with ending dependency connections and aspects similar to those found in the ‘anal phase, as described by K. Abraham.

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[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS]

Needs are what a drive represents,In the Szondi teachings Needs are the same as Drives

THE SZONDI NEEDS

In Szondi’s view each Factor, modeled after eight psychiatric condition

types, has in its nature an inherent drive that seeks satisfaction. Each

also has a basic need, belonging to the nature of its Factor type.

1. Need for personal affection, (varies from simple friendly impulses

to the Eroto-manias and cravings of love. Associates generally with

tenderness and feminine modes of thinking.

2. Need for activity, assertion, (varies from enjoyment of starting the

day to mental and physical activities to hardness and actual events

tinged with sadism. Associates with hardness and masculine modes of

thinking.

3. Need for Control of Emotions. (Varies in amounts of control and

related ethical restrains, from reasonable practical to moments over

driven to control or under-controlled and emotional nature

taking control. Here tendencies to being a Good ‘Abel’ or polar to the

Envious hateful ‘Cain’ exist, as depending on the compromises available.

4. Need to show one self, be admired and express ( varies from shyness, tactful showing desire for attention to strong acts or desires on the borders of exhibitionism.

5. Need to include in the mind-image index certain signifiers of ‘what and

who I believe I am’. This varies from a usable and adaptive self-space

to Narcissistic isolations where the self is far more important than others.

6. Need to participate, to find mental and emotional satisfying ways of

unfolding ones needs, strivings, and inclinations. (varies from satisfactory balanced rational and effective modes of adjustment that can in some become over rationalistic or turn to projected forms of blaming of others or even as to move one to the borders of paranoia.)

7. Need for ‘Objects’ with bonding Power (Here objects means those persons

or things- even cherished mental conceptions that when the are lost to

a person it is painful or depressing. These can be small things, big

things, money things or minor or major loved persons. Mood depressive is part of its nature.

8.   Need to gain dependency satisfaction, interwoven with the ‘oral world’  is otomisms and pessimism depending on oits performance. There are happy manics. and unhappy manics, the later often turning agaist the frustrating world as when any such deep bonding is threatened with ending.

THE BASIC PSYCHIATRIC  CONDITIONS ARE ALSO JUST EXAGERATED NEEDS THAT EVERY PERSON HAS. We will cross over this teaching in many connections.

[SELF-ANALYSIS] MEMO #01

“If you are truly achieving free association, of a depth kind, your content output is indeed closer to the dream and fantasy worlds than the one of your everyday mind usage. At some moment you might feel it’s silly or close to madness to persist. Depth level free association is not exactly a waking dream, because much of ones normal personality shapes where and to what extent it may provide or block insight. And you can turn it off as you wish. Also it is suggested that you use spaced daily, half hour sessions as the best way to avoid burn out or the unwanted obsessional flooding that a few may be prone to. One size does not fit all and common sense must prevail. You have a responsibility to your self not to overdo any procedure of any kind.”

—-CHIROBUT

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] (C= [00])   SPENT OR DISENGAGED OBJECT RELATIONS, IN THE CASE OF IT’S OCCURENCE IN THE ‘CONTACT’ VECTOR.

The experimental test shows this is a far more frequent finding in the population than is generally assumed.

Here our subject has chosen one depressive as like and one as dislike and at the same time one manic as like and one as dislike. Coded as C=[d0m0]

It is to Szondi’s credit that he recognized this selection was relative, and more one of avoidance of these reagent photos. As the subject was told to chose likes and dislikes, the avoidance is presumed of unconscious origin. If logically, the strength of your identification or counter identification, is related to the number you select as like or dislike, how then can an near empty Vector occur? It is because the other Vectors used up the permitted choices and as here, are left behind not chosen, 4 depressives and 4 Manics.

What you leave behind has its  own psychological significance. This can also happen in the other three Vectors where it also represents a spent or disengagement of the inpulses or drives that belong to the special characterists of those spheres. Which we shall return to later when they in turn are examined. Sometimes in the choices reactions, a person may leave behind 5, or even all 6. This being obvious on inspection when the results results are charted.

Don’t jump t0 the conclusion I am saying  “Object Relations” are reflected only in this settings group. What is important is that different settings reflect with relevance the personality of a tested subject including some aspects of which that persons object relations were at the time of the testing. Testing is for accuracy done over daily or every other day for usually 10 profiles showing all eight Factors. not just one Vector and its two Factors as was done here for teaching purposes.

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Nevertheless, if you really wish to explore the hidden aspects of yourself, on your own without the help of a live therapist. You should ask fateanalsisguy@gmail for instrictions and ACCEPT the disclimers. Your e-mail address or any other markers of indentity are kept confidential. No content will be shared with anyone without your permission. You will not be asked for personal history other than age, gender and your ocupational type. Fateanalysis as provided here is educational only and not offered as treatment for any condition or professional service medical or psychotherapy. It teaches an alternative method of gaining self-knowledge. If you follow this to its root, all that you believed to be psychologic turns out to be genic.

[SELF-ANALYSIS]

Keeping A Dream Journal

To be effectivly used in a self-analysis it is suggest that to reach a depth level requires using the  depth level free-association as was defined by psychoanalyst Karen Horney in her book ‘Self-Analysis’

A dream journal is a journal in which dream experiences are recorded. A dream journal might include a record of nightly dreams, personal reflections and identifying waking experiences that enter the dream experience as if unfinished business somehow entering the dream world.

Dream journals are also used by people trying to achieve lucid dreams. Lucid dreams supposedly have spiritual or telepathic qualities. Keeping a journal is insisted upon by some therapists. Advocates of self-psychoanalysis also recommend it as a way of identifying recurrent themes with associated anxieties and hostilities that are otherwise unconscious.

Dated dream journals are better than loose notes. Remembering dreams is more difficult for some than others. It is an aid to memory and a way to preserve details, many of which are otherwise rapidly forgotten no matter how memorable the dream originally seemed. A simple test will convince most that only a few dreams of a persons total output will be remembered a month later.

Keeping a dream journal conditions a person to view remembering dreams as important and/or something to find a hidden relevance in the content. A free association to each phrase and event in a dream is the method of Freudian analysis, which frees one from

using a dream interpreter, book or other source other than his very own mental activity. How you interpret your earlier dream a second time a few months later, can be very different from the first time. Some Psychoanalysts such as Karen Horney, points out The difference can be do to new insights on the positive side or due to intrusions of unconscious complexes that stimulate anxiety or hostility.

Interestingly some persons claim they do not dream. This is not proven, although some sleep research suggests a few have no brain wave activity of the type believed to accompany dreaming.

While useful in psychoanalysis and some other so called talk therapies, it is not an essential, as focused inventories as in cognitive therapy and the depth level free association, used by most Neo-Freudian therapists will still work.

Any sensible approach will usually work given time and serious application as most approaches will detect and offer re-adjustment and insight possibilities for the individual. Therapy is not magic, results are not guaranteed and one has to keep expectations within the type, severity, duration and circumstances of specific  problems, traits, habits, conpulsions being explored.

Electronic recording devices may replace paper but the process is still the same.

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—HEY GUY!

This is ‘Mountain Software Writer’ again.

You got me started on my depth level self-analysis, not quite the 1-2-3, I hoped for–but usable. Then you lost me with irrelevant leaps via Posts, Pages and Links to: Dr. Phil’s son, Jay’s TV show, Susan Deri on Paroxysmal’ on one spot and ‘Contact’ on another. Even more confusing are the Szondi Tables listed under [FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS]-ALSO the the unexplained remarks that you used to write, record custom made self-hypnosis 45 RPM discs in the 1950’s. Please Que me in, as I have an interest in self-hypnosis as well as, my brain as software.

I read your disclaimer as to not being a mental health professional and all discussion is not to be construed as medical or psychological advice. I agree, it’s my mind and I can analyze it if I want to.

—-’Mountain Software Writer’This is ‘Mountain Software Writer’ again.

You got me starte—’Mountain Software Writer’

—- Sorry I’ll get back to self-analysis with some new content later this month. In advocating any self help one has to be careful not to crossover to any thing that can be construed as practicing medicine, chiropractic or psychology in any formal sence. This is a Blog with a niches built upon my past experiences and not fit for any purpose except discussion and opinions.

Some my old self-hypnosis scripts used building self-esteem by Will-Power, rather than any self-analysis. It was aimed at overcoming ‘any negative thing’, by if not in fact, by changing how you feel and cope with whatever it was.

Learning something new is confusing and for some painful. Tell me if you are also using dream analysis, if you have set up regular time, place and have achieved what you believe is depth level free association. I’ll edit your reply and post it here.

Thanks,——Chirobut

P.S.  Some pop culture stuff is delited or parked in pages or links after its search engine attraction value fades.  KEEP LOOKING FOR NEW POSTS AND LATER PAGES WITH ‘SELF-ANALYSIS’ IN THE HEADER. I WANT TO GET BETTER DISTRUBUTION FOR THIS BLOG BEFORE I DO ONE ON SELF-HYPNOSIS- if at all- there are many already out there.