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August 30, 2008

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] The existance of detectable drive settings

.A little know aspect of Fateanalysis is that there exists (determinable
in the Szondi Test) evidence of settings of the basic drive directions
of individuals. Szondi offered that these settings led to a persons
fate in life (hence the “fate analysis term). These settings can only
be partly explained as being determined by imitation, education,
Pavlovian conditioning or environmental pressures. Szondi offered a
gene theory as recast in ones ancestor set drives. His insight was that
these drives are when exaggerated the same as eight basic psychiatric
conditions universal in humans. He came to this opinion from genealogy
studies These things we theorize must set the controls that exist, but
are not the actual control function ( almost as a device) of an
individuals drive system. The term drive and drive system was a late
addition to Szondi’s work, by which is meant how a persons drives are
also the result of existing settings. Something like the permissions
and defaults we have come to know as the software actions in a computer
program. An analogy is, when some are ‘on’- certain others are ‘off’
but still exist, ‘grayed out’ and not accessible until a certain task
is completed or canceled. These CONTROLLING SETTINGS have a range
permitted by heredity in an individual’s personality system. This
defines the otter limit that imitation education and conditioning can
no longer make thinking, feeling, and behavioral changes.  The
settings range is limited by an individual’s inheritance as to
intelligence, emotional responses, and neurological state. It however
represents in an analog form which we can detect from projected effects
in the psychological test invented by Szondi. Several attempts have
been made to link Rorschach Test findings to certain projections found
in the Szondi Test. However many individuals do not effectively control
what they do inherit.  There is reason to believe that the
possibilities, an individual uses in his development can and will be
only the control possibilities that pass to him from the gene mixture.
Our focus then is to come to understand these settings and the
resultant thought feeling and behavioral out comes. Then hopefully to
use this knowable to assist that person to satisfy the needs in a
social positive manner.  In particular those that define his
ways or modes of satisfying his innate drive needs. (Innate drives
needs are those common to all humans and discernible with similar goals
in animals. Thus, hereditary and biological in nature.) This may sound
like double talk until you can you can form a table of the
possibilities and display the possibilities. The great minds of the
past from Aristotle, through to the philosophers and today’s modern
psychology theorists, all offer useful but partial examples of such
possibilities and limitations. Our knowledge situation is much like the
state of chemistry before the insights of the Russian professor, Dmitri
Ivanovich Mendeleev 1834-1907, the creator of the first workable
predictive version of the periodic table of elements. Unlike other
contributors to earlier chemistry tables, The Mendeleev display
predicted the properties of elements yet to be discovered. This was
with some inconsistencies do to an incomplete array of findings, the
rarity and transient nature of some elements and limited tools of
analysis that existed in his day. [Note the parallel to psychology to
day.] Our ability to display the graphic analogs of the human drive
system is about at the level of and shares similar problems as the
Mendeleev display.  Also we note that Szondi’s test
instrument, that he always called his test experimental, and the test
ensemble has not been revised or supplemented with new reagent quality
visage photos since it’s introduction in 1937. Nor has the eight
psychiatric conditions used as core to his filtering out of the
settings been brought into the thinking of DSM IV. In fact Catatonia,
Hysteria. Epilepsy and Manic-Depressive have new OR MODIFIED
definitions and if we are to understand Szondi correctly we must use
his definitions. Be this as it may, we must persist, using the tools we
have, rather than lose the insight and prediction capabilities inherent
in the Szondian tables, filling in as we go from our own findings
tested against the opinions of L. Szondi and his coworkers,
particularly Susan Deri, who offers a psychology approach and Jacques
Schotte, in Belgium, the developed a special ‘Pathoanalysis’
approach.  The Tables of The Possible Settings (Following
Szondi) are four main divisions. They also may be conceived as being
related - Heredity spheres.  1.Sexual 2. Paroxysmal 3. Ego, 4.
Contact. ( Each sphere an important study and cluster of controls and
effects needed to attempt to explain aspects of human psychology, as
limited as is our present ability to do so is.) To recognize a setting
you must know the set position of the two factors in that sphere. A
heredity sphere is also called a “Vector” a term borrowed from
navigation science. The reagent visage photo dyadic forming a Vector
Sexual: Homosexuals and Sadists. Paroxysmal: Epileptics and Hysterics.
Ego (Sch): Catatonics and Paranoids. Contact: Manics and Depressives.
FOUR HEREDITY SPHERES OF HUMANS as understood  WITHIN THE
CONSTRAINTS OF THE SZONDI TEST.  These four Spheres when set
into a Mendeleeve-like table forms a relative system, within which
psychological needs and behavioral strivings are in a (determinable by
the experimental test) relationship. With each such setting determined
one can attach a term or phrase that reflects its nature. This nature
term may be appropriate in some cases and not others, but offers a
starting point for logical analysis. The clinical empiric found in
others with known conditions or symptoms or behavior syndromes have to
support it as being a common to others that have that setting. (This is
also the case with other projective tests, such as the Rorschach Ink
Blot test as one of the validity indexes.) Each Sphere, has 16
possibilities that exist within it. This number is do to the
constraints of the test’s construction. Perhaps a further developed
test set could filter out additional settings or even strivings of a
different nature, if a more refined process for the separation was
constructed. At present we must use what we have. However as limited as
one can argue that the Szondi Test test instrument is, it is still a
useful. For decisive analysis one must not rely on any one test or test
method.  method to advance our knowledge and findings. The
findings then force a change in out theoretic. We are not attempting
the teaching the test. Here we are illustrating its unique
possibilities, that may spin off into education, vocational selection,
social work, mental hygiene, personal psychotherapy or
self-analysis.

It was Leopold Szondi’s leap of insight that drives could be measured against

the eight psychiatric conditions.

Read “Faces of Madness” Link in Blogroll.

It is your settings that over time leads you to a particular FATE.

Fateanalysis is about fates. Fates are genic.
There are links on the Blogroll to sites with “support groups” for those becoming depressed or needing serious medical or psychiatric treatment.
Nevertheless, if you really wish to explore the hidden aspects of yourself, on your own without the help of a live therapist. you should ask fateanalsisguy@gmail for instrictions and ACCEPT the disclimers. Your e-mail address or any other markers of indentity. No content will be shared with anyone without your permission. You will not be asked for personal history other than age, gender and your ocupational type. Fateanalysis as provided here is educational only and not offered as treatment for any condition or professional service medical or psychotherapy. It teaches an alternative method of gaining self-knowledge. If you follow this to its root, all that you believed to be psychologic turns out to be genic.

August 28, 2008

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] @ fateanalysis # “Paroxysmal Vector”

READ SUSAN DERI”S PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPLANATION –ON BLOGROLL.

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[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] @ fateanalysis # “Sexual Vector”

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Self-analysis at a depth-level is required to change the consequences of neurosis in your life.

Sexual & Gender Emotional & Phobic Thought & Obsessions Participation & Relationships

You already have the tools. They are dull however. You can’t use them because they were smashed in infancy/

You either learn how or stay compulsive repeating.

Don’t try to remember this. It will stick in your mind relative to what it means to you.

Revisionist Psychology Flash Card

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] @ fateanalysis # “Contact Vector”

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The Contact Vector (Bonds, Dependencies and Mood)

Today in psychological circles, there is a certain interest on “Object Relations” as a study. Szondi by the 1940’s and 50’s offered these conceptualized offerings in the chart below. It was the findings of his projective test that forced these terms on him. It was that within the results being filtered out from the depressive and manic articulation was more than just a reflection of mood, as would be logically expected, but strivings connected to a person’s object bonds, search for, reaction to loss, loyalty, non-loyalty, dependency. The findings of the experimental test described these events but explanations were to be found where they could be in he development Oral and Anal phases of development, anthropology and social history of mankind and the gene passed inheritance, Even then much is stil difficult to explain, as to why and how their occurs defense of and revolt against these very same bonds, ones that exist in this sphere of needs and strivings, that shift in time and with events in a person’s life .

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This usage is not psychodiagnostic in intent, It is to be taken as a self-inventory, perhaps useful in your own self-analysis and also to reintroduce the teachings, to a new generation,The the work of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, who on a genic bases claimed normal is but a balanced mixture of eight gene passed psychiatric conditions.


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August 27, 2008

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] @ fateanalysis # Grid-Locked or Spent Drive-Needs.

Grid-Locked or Spent Drives

A Vector being a complete Drive or Impulse.

The four Vectors being:

  • Sexual
  • ParoxysmaL (Affect Control)
  • Ego
  • Contact (Mood  & Object Affinity)

This chart of Ulrich Moser, is no doubt  very confusing, and at first it seems just a list of not supported satements not much different that ones put together in past times from Aristotle to Physiognomist, J. Lavater, to identify character and personality, as in the  facial reading of the ancients.  Had they Freudian psychology, photography, computerized recurrence detection methods, and Szondi’s theory  of a language of choice, and  the projective test ensemble, that permits the  creating of a schematic analog of the tested person, would then the results look much different?

The Szondi Test has been called indirect physiogomy (face reading) as your own self projected in your like [+], dislike [-], ambivalence [±], or avoidance [0] of certain face types, thus representing aspects of yourself, hidden as these aspects may be.

Here is shown a kind of grid lock of drive-needs [±±] contrasted with a suspenion or absence of a drive-need [00]. Both being signs of trouble for the tested person in some siuations.

This is to show what this setting would mean when a double avoidance choice or a double ambivalent choice was made in each Vector. This is for teaching purposes. This is not an example of a subject profile.

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] @ fateanalysis # the [-][-] & [+][+] Amalgamation of Drive-Needs. articulation.

Experimental use showed that in each Heredity Sphere, set as [--] or [++] special mutual characteristics assert. Drive-needs going in the same choice directions are less conflictual in results. Amalgamation may also be called ‘yoked’ as in pulling together. Psychological meaning is usually favorable for a subject. A good example is in the Sexual Vector where, S=[++] can be read ‘as ’subject has a need for personal affection [h+] and at the same time is aggressive ready [s+] to seek it out. Both men and women may have this setting. About 40 % adult males have it as regular and recurring. S=[--] is the uncommon person whom seeks love for humanity and not for himself directly.

Alfter U Moser.

[FORBIDDEN TEACHINGS] @ fateanalysis # the polar drives.

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The like or dislike, of each class of psychiatric patient’s type facial photo, (somewhat like the earler developed Rorschach ink blot test, ) refects a test subject’s drive-needs as they are at that moment.

like is [+]

dislike is [-]

split choice is ambivalent [±]

no choice is avoidant or null [0]

August 26, 2008

[WORTHY] ‘DYSFUNCTIONAL’ WHAT IS? WHAT GOES WRONG.

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WHAT IS A DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY?Family dysfunction can be any condition that interferes with healthy family functioning. Most families have some periods of time where functioning is impaired by stressful circumstances (death in the family, a parent’s serious illness, etc.). Healthy families tend to return to normal functioning after the crisis passes. In dysfunctional families, however, problems tend to be chronic and children do not consistently get their needs met. Negative patterns of parental behavior tend to be dominant in their children’s lives.

How Do Healthy Families Work?

Healthy families are not perfect; they may have yelling, bickering, misunderstanding, tension, hurt, and anger - but not all the time. In healthy families emotional expression is allowed and accepted. Family members can freely ask for and give attention. Rules tend to be made explicit and remain consistent, but with some flexibility to adapt to individual needs and particular situations. Healthy families allow for individuality; each member is encouraged to pursue his or her own interests, and boundaries between individuals are honored.

Children are consistently treated with respect, and do not fear emotional, verbal, physical, or sexual abuse. Parents can be counted on to provide care for their children. Children are given responsibilities appropriate to their age and are not expected to take on parental responsibilities. Finally, in healthy families everyone makes mistakes; mistakes are allowed. Perfection is unattainable, unrealistic, and potentially dull and sterile.

There are many types of dysfunction in families. Three types are recognized as common. [1.] Some parents under-function, leaving their children to fend for themselves. [2.] Other parents over-function, never allowing their children to grow up and be on their own.[3.] Others are inconsistent or violate basic boundaries of appropriate behavior. Below is a link to a brief description of some types of parental dysfunction, along with some common problems associated with each……………..

(This is a KSU Site, well written and a good starting point, however the services they offer may or may not be duplicated in your area.)

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August 22, 2008

[WORTHY] UK BLOG ON POPULAR PSYCHOLOGY & PSY BLOGS.

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August 21, 2008

10 Questions For Dr. Phil

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Sep. 13, 2004

10 Questions For Dr. Phil

By JEFFREY RESSNER; PHIL MCGRAW

In just six years, Dr. Phil McGraw has, with Oprah Winfrey’s help, gone from an obscure Texas courtroom consultant to a household name and television icon. This month (2004) Dr. Phil, 54, launches the third season of his syndicated talk show, hosts a prime-time network special and publishes a new self-help book. ["SELF MATTERS" (*Wow It sold two million copies by 2008) TIME's Jeffrey Ressner caught up with him at his Los Angeles office......... [HERE]

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