Dreameryv2 June 23, 2009
Dreameryv2
June 23, 2009
I wish to share with you two recent dreams, which permitted interesting explorations that were in away diappointing and not useful in locating what I believe to be my problems. Or am I expected to forget about what I think my problems are and just let them unfold without any direction by my conscious mind? Come on you guys who know tell what I don’t see in these dreams.
#1
I am at a river bank. I am wondering if it safe to wade across. I decide it’s not and I start walking a further distance to where a bridge is located. When I see a group of happy children wading across. I feel ashamed of myself.
#2
For some reason I am expected to deliver some papers to an important person at the convention center. I expected to be able to walk in and do this uneventful. To my surprise the entry was crowded with sullen restless people. I was told I would have to stand in line and wait my turn for a pass, just like everyone else. I started to argue and was told by the man in the line behind me that it was not smart to push this guy for special permission to enter -I shut up, but felt angry and mistreated. My cell phone rang and I was censured for being gone so long from work. I pulled myself awake, thinking I did not like this dream.
My analysis opens with the [MORE] button below. But befor you go there, I would like you to give some thought aimed not at me personally but what if these were your own dreams? Can you say you could never dream such banal mood toned stuff? I characteristicly worry about what I may be missing evading or blocking out. Maybe you can see what I miss–
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June 1, 2009
Mountain Software Writer
05/31/09 E-Mail from: Mountain Software Writer//To fateanalysisguy@gmail
Part of my revisions to my revised contract with myself was to report in monthly. Here it is May 31 and I have to push myself to do so before the month ends. Also this month I have forced myself to write my dreams down before they slip away. A set of dreams immediately followed. They make me face things I would just as soon avoid.
Dream #1
A dream about the death of my mother, one that I am not comforable to talk about even though the event was several years ago.
Dream #2
Just in case you think I am just a horny guy that lays this on you for the hell of it, below is my photo of the page in my dream book. Back when I went to live with my aunt K. I really enjoyed those TV commercials for the 18 hour bras that Jane Russell starred in. That speaks for itself. What I do not understand is the strange hair business?

Don’t be afraid to send me your interpretation. You are my external analyst. The other, I have transference to.
May 30, 2009
Why and How I Do My Self-Analysis -(JoAnn) “CRYBABYSTILL”- Invited Guest Blogger. BUT- first the Irrational reasons I started it. 1. The Sopranos (Renewed old fascination. 2. Dull Life 3. Internet Broadband
My husband says I am a blabber mouth and recommends I should consentrate on that. I guess he is right as that trait forces me to present my story in several parts. This is number one and the rest are about to come. I influenced the editor to put links to the Tony Soprano-Dr Melfi exchanges in the Blogroll so that you won’t have me sent to the funny farm.
WHY and How I Do My Self-Analysis -(JoAnn) “CRYBABYSTILL”- Invited Guest Blogger. BUT- first the Irrational reasons I started it.
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1. The Sopranos a fascination.
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2. Dull Life
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3. Internet Broadband
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I felt, even years back, I could benefit from a psychoanalysis. This was not exactly a rational wish. Of course and I had both attraction, resistance and even a little embarrassment at the thought of being psychoanalyzed at all, in any form modern cognitive in a chair, or on grandfather Freud’s couch. In fact, I never was able to justify the seeking any professional help. I imagined I would be laughed at for admitting the only dumb reason I had to offer was that I wanted to explore me. This desire for analysis was not new with me, it had formed over the years, mainly from the movie versions of psychotherapists. I understood there nearly everything was
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May 18, 2009
~~~~Szondi Study GROUP * “Average Man” Note, * The 1 opposite choice in each factor adds restainting balance. * That the factors are ‘yoked’ together, pulling/pushing in unison. * No real average man maintains this example profile across the board for very long, however over several tests, they may appear, mixed in with other results, it is useful to know them when you see them.
# Szondi Psychogram.
# “Average Man” Average does not mean free from neurosis,
- The 1 opposite choice in each factor adds restainting balance.
- That the factors are ‘yoked’ together, pulling/pushing in unison.
- No real average man maintains this example profile across the board for very long, however over several tests, they may appear, mixed in with other results, it is useful to know them when you see them.
[S]=( h+s+)] [P]=(e+ hy_) [Sch]=(k-p-) [C]=(d0 m+)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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- ‘h’ +, ’s’ +
- Feels affection need drive–
- Feels aggressive need drive–
- ‘e’ -, ‘hy’ -
- Feels little drive need for ethical censorship–
- Feels need to hide emotions, finds emotional control difficulty–
- ‘k’ -, ‘p’ -
- Feels little drive need to intellectualizing-
- Drive needs repressed–
- Feels little need to analyze everything–
‘d’, ‘m’
- Feels need to cling to love objects for support-
- Easy to replace love objects–
VECTOR ‘P’[PROXYSMAL ] AND VECTOR ‘SCH’ [E Comprise the middle of the drive system, as he EGO and Moral Censors.
VECTOR S AND VECTOR C Comprise the borders of the drive system, as basic needs and their drive goals.
” Szondi Study Group” and “Self-Analysts in Training” These posts will be moved to pages after a month period and may not be up front when you look later. Serious students can from pagesprint them out or save to hard drive the parts they want for reference without clutter.
‘Search’ at bottom of Blogroll will still locate other things for you at that later time. This is to keep the main part of the Blog consistent and friendly and to provide better Google Optimizing. -Editor
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May 16, 2009
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May 1, 2009
In my previous efforts at Self-analysis during the Dr. Phil ‘Self Matters’ book use I had made a list of my strengths and weaknesses. How embarrassed I am now when I look over all the lists I made then. Wow! was I kidding myself!
Dreameryv2
May 1 2009
In my previous efforts at Self-analysis during the Dr. Phil ‘Self Matters’ book use I had made a list of my strengths and weaknesses. How embarrassed I am now when I look over all the lists I made then. Wow! was I kidding myself! I had entered that I had had no baggage from my childhood, that my relations to my family as totally exemplary (I had forgot to ask my mother about this point-which I won’t go into in public.) (I had bragged to myself and the image of Dr. Phil which redefines by watching his show regularly -moved like a mirage just ahead of me as I worked my way through the inventories there. It was a good thing I saved my answers, and now have them to face. Seeing now where my self-analysis is taking me. How could I have so rewritten the actual facts of my life, even bragged my compulsive neurotic quirks were to be envied by the world.
What brought this into focus was a major disruption in my family constellation caused by my (opps our) daughter leaving home with the help of her boy friend. And with a polarization within my family resulting, one where my parents and my usually supportive husband appear to object to such things as dragging her home bodily. They tell me to shut up, leave the kids alone, and never mind any talk of reaction formation. I guess they are being sensible and I am not. (Note this reluctance to accept their position.) Needless to say, this disrupts my systematic self-analysis procedures to the point I can not think of anything else. How could I have not seen this coming? How could my own parents and my husband view it so differently than I? (This and worse runs through my mind over and over).
Should I discontinue my self-analysis procedures? Is there anything to be gained while I am so upset?
On the whole, there is no need to worry too much about outside interferences. You are realizing some aspects of your somewhat idealized view of yourself and not being totally realistic. Certainly give yourself t ime to cool off, try to see your daughter view, as well as the views of others in your family In most cases when decisive outside events deflect the course of analysis it is only for a short while. Unproductive sessions may happen, yet at some point you will get back to the deeperr personal problems, if only you stick to the spirit of the analytic process. Since most experiences can elicit a number of different responses, you can come to see a side of yourself that connects closest to the problem at hand. Hopefuly you will touch deeper content and thereby be able to retrieve more threads to follow, some of which may be painful or which you would perfer to abandon or keep repressed. If you put off a few sessions it does not matter. It is useful to keep writing down your dreams durring any breach of your contract with yourself to self-analyze. Thus when you restart you have many new starting points. Interrupting your elf-analysis should be recognized as being a resistance and reviwed questoned such as “What isthe nature of my resistance?
–Chirobut
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April 27, 2009
~~~~Forbidden Teachings -The Drive System of the Experimental Diagnostics of Drives Drive tendencies Drive factors Drive vectors
Jacques Schotte asked “Why just these eight factors? Can not others exist?
“This possibility cannot be altogether denied. One thing however is certain: All suggestions advanced over the last ten years concerning additional drive factors, have after careful examination, been proven incorrect. The drive factors proposed as “new” turned out to be mere variations of known ones.” –L. Szondi
The administration of the Szondi Test is deceptively simple. From six groups you pick out the two, you like the most and the two you like the least. Before you reject this as fantasy and nonsense you should do, on sequential days, the test to create at least three profiles. Then after analysis, ask yourself, how close does the results describe you?
By the way, the little faded blue box of 48 photos of the eight psychiatric conditions has been moved to the web and the computer screen.
(c) L. SZONDI//Grune & Straton N.Y. 1952
The self-analyst without any such Szondi profiles may use the ‘10 Neurotic needs’ of Karen Horney as to what they are dealing with in themselves as thier analysis process uncoveres those strivings unsatisflied or conflictual.
April 12, 2009
The ten ‘Neurotic Needs of psychoanalyst, Karen Horney- They she pointed out were in part what a Self-ANALYST MUST RECOGNIZE IN HIMSELF DESPITE HIS RESISTANCE TO GAIN THE INSIGHTS NEEDED TO CHANGE HIMSELF.
The Neurotic Needs According to Karen Horney M.D.
Authority on Self-Analysis and the modernizer of psychoanalysis.
Neurotic needs are compulsive and cause anxiety.
“Basic anxiety is the foundation of the neurotic personality”. Horney identifies ten strategies and corresponding needs that neurotics develop to cope with their excessive anxiety and feelings of helplessness and loneliness”
Karen Horney first listed these 10 “neurotic needs” in Self-Analysis, 1942, pp. 51-56. (She also pointed out some limitations.)
“Needs Neurotic”
# 1
The neurotic need for affection and approval: (see The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, Chapter 6, on the need for affection): Some variations exist such, as the indiscriminate need to please others and to be liked and approved of by others. The automatic living up to the expectations of others;
Center of focus emotional in others and not in self, with their wishes and opinions the only thing that counts. Dread of self-assertion may be involved and the dread of hostility on the part of others or of hostile feelings within self.
#2
The neurotic need for a “partner” who will take over one’s life: (see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 15, on masochism, and E. Fromm’s Escape from Freedom, Chapter on authoritarianism.
Center of focus entirely in the “partner,” who is to fulfill all expectations of life and take responsibility for good and evil, his successful manipulation becoming the predominant task; and connected is the overvaluation of “love” because “love” is supposed to solve all problems;
Dread of desertion commonly the dread of being alone relates to both childhood experiences and real dangers of separation in the present.
#3
The neurotic need to restrict one’s life within narrow borders:
Necessity to be undemanding and contented with little, and to restrict ambitions and wishes for material things; (a compulsion, often overlooked item on many psychological inventories) or may exist as a compulsive ‘necessity’ to remain inconspicuous and to take second place; often with tendency to self-belittling ones good faculties and potentialities, with a exaggerated modesty. Compulsive urge to save rather than to spend. Dread of making any demands. Dread of having to start or follow through on asserting reasonable needs and rights.
#4
The neurotic need for power: ( The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, Chapter 10, on the need for power, prestige, and possession):
Domination over others craved for its own sake; excessive and compulsive devotion to cause, duty, responsibility, a maintained and open disrespect for ’others’, their individuality, their dignity, their feelings, the only concern being their subordination in the exchange. Often acts indiscriminate have adoration for strength and contempt for any weakness in other and sometimes in one’s own self. Compulsive control issue surfaces often as a dread of uncontrollable situations; dread of anything situating them as even momentarily helplessness.
The neurotic need to control both oneself and others may indirectly assert by use of reason and foresight and rule making and thus not openly show it’s deeper domination goal. It may be useful for those who are too inhibited to exert power directly and openly. Those with this neurotic striving often offer a strong belief in the omnipotence of intelligence and reason and deny the power of emotional forces and have contempt for them. At times, they dread any recognizing of limitations to the power of reason. A feeling of fortitude may be gained from the belief in the magic power of will (like possession of a wishing ring as if reality itself is to change because they wish it so.)
#5
The neurotic need to exploit others: - and by hook or crook get the better of them, others are evaluated primarily according to whether or not they can be exploited or made use of.
Various foci of exploitation–money (bargaining amounts to a passion), ideas, sexuality, feelings, followed by pride in exploitative skill or dread of being exploited and thus of being “stupid.”
#6
The neurotic need for social recognition or prestige: (may or may not be combined with a craving for power) For many under the compulsive push of the need, things–inanimate objects, money, persons, one’s own qualities, activities, and feelings are evaluated and accepted according to their prestige enhancing values.
They may follow the use of traditional or rebellious ways of inciting attention, envy or admiration, potentially magnified by concepts of losing face, caste, status any humiliation hurts, whether or not caused through external circumstances or through factors from within.
#7
The neurotic need for personal admiration: Inflated image of self (narcissism);
Need to be admired not for what one possesses or presents in the public eye, but for the imagined self:
Self-evaluation is dependent on living up to this image and on admiration of it by others;
Dread of losing admiration (”humiliation hurts”).
#8
The neurotic ambition for personal achievement: Need to surpass others not through what one presents or is but through one’s activities:
Thus. Self-evaluation is dependent on being the very best–lover, sportsman, writer, worker–particularly in one’s own mind, recognition by others being vital too, however, and its absence resented; Admixture of destructive tendencies (toward the defeat of others) never lacking but varying in intensity; Relentless driving of self to greater achievements, though with pervasive anxiety; Dread of failure (”humiliation”).
#9
The neurotic need for self-sufficiency and independence: -Necessity never to need anybody, or to yield to any influence, or to be tied down to anything, any closeness involving the danger of enslavement; Distance and separateness the only source of security; Dread of needing others, of ties, of closeness, of love.
#10
The neurotic need for perfection and unassailability: (see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 13, on the super-ego, and E. Fromm, Escape from Freedom, Chapter on conformity).
Relentless driving for perfection; Rumination and self-recriminations regarding possible flaws;
Feelings of superiority over others because of being perfect; Dread of finding flaws within self or of making mistakes; Dread of criticism or reproaches.
SOME SAY THIS LIST IS TOO LONG, SOME SAY TOO SHORT, SOME MAY OVERLAP. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO GRASP THAT ANYONE OF THEM COULD REPRESENT ELEMENTS IN YOURSELF.
THEY OR THEIR POLAR OPPOSITE NATURES EXIST IN EVERYONE IN VARIOUS PROPORTIONS [in L. Szondi’s concept as well] AND RISE TO IMPORTANCE WHEN THEY BECOME “NEUROTIC” THIS IS “NEUROTIC” AS DEFINED BY KAREN HORNEY. THESE ARE THOSE ONES WHICH CAUSE OUR FAILURES, UNHAPPINESS, AND UNDERMINES THE QUALITY OF LIFE ITSELF.
Note:”Need”, as a term, depends on context. It can be also a trend, striving, inclination, mind set, attitude, even a drive.
To find the context, try for yourself various terms trying those that seem the best fit, as one that appears most related to causation of the conflict under consideration.
–Chirobut
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April 7, 2009
[DIDACTIC] NEEDS PSYCHOLOGICAL THAT ANY WOULD BE SELF-ANALYST MUST GRASP.
A STARTER
DIDACTIC FOR THE SELF-ANALYST
Authentic Needs are universal. You know most of them as the basic traits we all have and know about. They may be strong or weak, and at different times in
your life may change in importance and influence.
Needs of the authentic type have connected to them a ‘moving power’ that is able move you in respect to certain ‘others and yourself. (This may be new to you or you may intuitively have detected this in yourself
in how your relate to others.)
Detecting neurotc needs and how their power to ‘moves you’ to or from others, can be a
most useful self-analysis aid. By permitting the recognizing of such needs that compulsively, repetitiously, over time have moved you to your life situation. Be it good, bad or mixed. And which you now wish to understand better.
Needs of the authentic and basic type have connected to them a ‘moving power’, that regularly moves you in respect to a certain neurotic needs which if powerful or out of balance, cause you to reset your relationship to others and yourself.
1.] To others.
2.] Away from others.
3.] To join with internal aspects of yourself.
4.] Turn certain aspects of yourself against yourself.
This concept borrowed out of context, from from Psychoanalyst, Karen Horney, who is our authority of record on ’Self-Analysis’.
Dr. Honey did not say it exactly the way it is presented here, but it is the thrust of her observations that all needs of importance connect and belong to a
‘moving to/from, others (or self) process. It is a partly
conscious, but largely one the unconscious mind activity. In the course of conducting a attempted depth level self-analysis the detecting of this associated moving directing event is of marked value to anyone attempting to understand why something is has gone wrong in his life. Particularly when attempting to do so on his own without a live therapist. The neurotic needs (in this concept) invariably relate to some aspect of your relations to others or how your have come to see yourself. How you see yourself has to be carefully explored when looking for explanations. How you see yourself, and how you view others reveals the power from inside just beyond your will that sets your directions.
You may believe ’yourself’ is what self-analysis is all about. You will discover what you are all about is detectable and measured from determining just how you are in fact related to or from others.
Only you can dig out from your history, who and when and to what extent your psyche moved you to what ‘others’ means to you as you stand today.
The self-analysis discovery process is not a direct one and no one but you, can make yourself to change. That
is not an excuse to try.
You no doubt want to clarify what is meant by ‘authentic needs’ as some needs stand as normal and beneficial and others neurotic and misdirecting. Rest assured that you will know and name them by their influenes.
There are according to Karen Horney, ten neurotic needs.
You will generally recognize them when you reach them in yourself and submit them to exploration by means of systematic depth level free association process.
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March 30, 2009
Your choices are mirror of your unconscious.
Photo form L. Szondi’s “Experimental Diagnostics of Drives” 1952 (c) Grune & Stratton, N.Y.

Subject’s choice, Like [h] photos:
[h+]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for, emotional softness, tenderness, feminine stance and body rapport desire seductive and a preference to keep it going and extract a token of emotional appreciation and support.
Subject’s choice, Dislike [h] photos:
[h-]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for, a self-sacrificing and distanced emotional stance, of the humanitarian, body rapport desire is cyclic, distanced or inconsistent.
Subject’s choice, Like [s] photos:
[s+]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for emotional hardness, masculine power stance, body rapport desire direct and preferably without obligation.
Subject’s choice, Dislike [s] photos:
[s-]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for, emotional passiveness, moral masochistic stance, body rapport indirect or homosexual.
This is the mirror logic for like and dislike of just two factors, when extended to all eight genic factors, you then are profiled as what you are in the mood of the moment. This is why samples need be taken daily or three times a week to reflect a person’s personality accurately.
Before you volunteer to take the genic test, to advance your self-analysis and/or have the reading discussed publicly on this Blog please read the disclaimer, about no claims of scientific value in any specific finding. You are to draw your own conclusions.
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Dreameryv2
June 23, 2009
I wish to share with you two recent dreams, which permitted interesting explorations that were in away diappointing and not useful in locating what I believe to be my problems. Or am I expected to forget about what I think my problems are and just let them unfold without any direction by my conscious mind? Come on you guys who know tell what I don’t see in these dreams.
#1
I am at a river bank. I am wondering if it safe to wade across. I decide it’s not and I start walking a further distance to where a bridge is located. When I see a group of happy children wading across. I feel ashamed of myself.
#2
For some reason I am expected to deliver some papers to an important person at the convention center. I expected to be able to walk in and do this uneventful. To my surprise the entry was crowded with sullen restless people. I was told I would have to stand in line and wait my turn for a pass, just like everyone else. I started to argue and was told by the man in the line behind me that it was not smart to push this guy for special permission to enter -I shut up, but felt angry and mistreated. My cell phone rang and I was censured for being gone so long from work. I pulled myself awake, thinking I did not like this dream.
My analysis opens with the [MORE] button below. But befor you go there, I would like you to give some thought aimed not at me personally but what if these were your own dreams? Can you say you could never dream such banal mood toned stuff? I characteristicly worry about what I may be missing evading or blocking out. Maybe you can see what I miss–
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June 1, 2009
Mountain Software Writer
05/31/09 E-Mail from: Mountain Software Writer//To fateanalysisguy@gmail
Part of my revisions to my revised contract with myself was to report in monthly. Here it is May 31 and I have to push myself to do so before the month ends. Also this month I have forced myself to write my dreams down before they slip away. A set of dreams immediately followed. They make me face things I would just as soon avoid.
Dream #1
A dream about the death of my mother, one that I am not comforable to talk about even though the event was several years ago.
Dream #2
Just in case you think I am just a horny guy that lays this on you for the hell of it, below is my photo of the page in my dream book. Back when I went to live with my aunt K. I really enjoyed those TV commercials for the 18 hour bras that Jane Russell starred in. That speaks for itself. What I do not understand is the strange hair business?

Don’t be afraid to send me your interpretation. You are my external analyst. The other, I have transference to.
May 30, 2009
Why and How I Do My Self-Analysis -(JoAnn) “CRYBABYSTILL”- Invited Guest Blogger. BUT- first the Irrational reasons I started it. 1. The Sopranos (Renewed old fascination. 2. Dull Life 3. Internet Broadband
My husband says I am a blabber mouth and recommends I should consentrate on that. I guess he is right as that trait forces me to present my story in several parts. This is number one and the rest are about to come. I influenced the editor to put links to the Tony Soprano-Dr Melfi exchanges in the Blogroll so that you won’t have me sent to the funny farm.
WHY and How I Do My Self-Analysis -(JoAnn) “CRYBABYSTILL”- Invited Guest Blogger. BUT- first the Irrational reasons I started it.
-
1. The Sopranos a fascination.
-
2. Dull Life
-
3. Internet Broadband
-
I felt, even years back, I could benefit from a psychoanalysis. This was not exactly a rational wish. Of course and I had both attraction, resistance and even a little embarrassment at the thought of being psychoanalyzed at all, in any form modern cognitive in a chair, or on grandfather Freud’s couch. In fact, I never was able to justify the seeking any professional help. I imagined I would be laughed at for admitting the only dumb reason I had to offer was that I wanted to explore me. This desire for analysis was not new with me, it had formed over the years, mainly from the movie versions of psychotherapists. I understood there nearly everything was
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May 18, 2009
~~~~Szondi Study GROUP * “Average Man” Note, * The 1 opposite choice in each factor adds restainting balance. * That the factors are ‘yoked’ together, pulling/pushing in unison. * No real average man maintains this example profile across the board for very long, however over several tests, they may appear, mixed in with other results, it is useful to know them when you see them.
# Szondi Psychogram.
# “Average Man” Average does not mean free from neurosis,
- The 1 opposite choice in each factor adds restainting balance.
- That the factors are ‘yoked’ together, pulling/pushing in unison.
- No real average man maintains this example profile across the board for very long, however over several tests, they may appear, mixed in with other results, it is useful to know them when you see them.
[S]=( h+s+)] [P]=(e+ hy_) [Sch]=(k-p-) [C]=(d0 m+)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
######################################################################
- ‘h’ +, ’s’ +
- Feels affection need drive–
- Feels aggressive need drive–
- ‘e’ -, ‘hy’ -
- Feels little drive need for ethical censorship–
- Feels need to hide emotions, finds emotional control difficulty–
- ‘k’ -, ‘p’ -
- Feels little drive need to intellectualizing-
- Drive needs repressed–
- Feels little need to analyze everything–
‘d’, ‘m’
- Feels need to cling to love objects for support-
- Easy to replace love objects–
VECTOR ‘P’[PROXYSMAL ] AND VECTOR ‘SCH’ [E Comprise the middle of the drive system, as he EGO and Moral Censors.
VECTOR S AND VECTOR C Comprise the borders of the drive system, as basic needs and their drive goals.
” Szondi Study Group” and “Self-Analysts in Training” These posts will be moved to pages after a month period and may not be up front when you look later. Serious students can from pagesprint them out or save to hard drive the parts they want for reference without clutter.
‘Search’ at bottom of Blogroll will still locate other things for you at that later time. This is to keep the main part of the Blog consistent and friendly and to provide better Google Optimizing. -Editor
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May 16, 2009
~~~~DYSLEXIA NEWS NOTICE~~~~
MAY 16-2009 ARTICLE OF IMPORTANCE RETHINKING “DYSLEXIA” NOW LOCATED IN ‘PAGES’. USE SEARCH AT BOTTOM OF BLOGROLL FOR HIDDEN CONTENT.
ADDICTIONSEARCH.COM 24/7 PHONE IS 1-800-559-9503
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May 1, 2009
In my previous efforts at Self-analysis during the Dr. Phil ‘Self Matters’ book use I had made a list of my strengths and weaknesses. How embarrassed I am now when I look over all the lists I made then. Wow! was I kidding myself!
Dreameryv2
May 1 2009
In my previous efforts at Self-analysis during the Dr. Phil ‘Self Matters’ book use I had made a list of my strengths and weaknesses. How embarrassed I am now when I look over all the lists I made then. Wow! was I kidding myself! I had entered that I had had no baggage from my childhood, that my relations to my family as totally exemplary (I had forgot to ask my mother about this point-which I won’t go into in public.) (I had bragged to myself and the image of Dr. Phil which redefines by watching his show regularly -moved like a mirage just ahead of me as I worked my way through the inventories there. It was a good thing I saved my answers, and now have them to face. Seeing now where my self-analysis is taking me. How could I have so rewritten the actual facts of my life, even bragged my compulsive neurotic quirks were to be envied by the world.
What brought this into focus was a major disruption in my family constellation caused by my (opps our) daughter leaving home with the help of her boy friend. And with a polarization within my family resulting, one where my parents and my usually supportive husband appear to object to such things as dragging her home bodily. They tell me to shut up, leave the kids alone, and never mind any talk of reaction formation. I guess they are being sensible and I am not. (Note this reluctance to accept their position.) Needless to say, this disrupts my systematic self-analysis procedures to the point I can not think of anything else. How could I have not seen this coming? How could my own parents and my husband view it so differently than I? (This and worse runs through my mind over and over).
Should I discontinue my self-analysis procedures? Is there anything to be gained while I am so upset?
On the whole, there is no need to worry too much about outside interferences. You are realizing some aspects of your somewhat idealized view of yourself and not being totally realistic. Certainly give yourself t ime to cool off, try to see your daughter view, as well as the views of others in your family In most cases when decisive outside events deflect the course of analysis it is only for a short while. Unproductive sessions may happen, yet at some point you will get back to the deeperr personal problems, if only you stick to the spirit of the analytic process. Since most experiences can elicit a number of different responses, you can come to see a side of yourself that connects closest to the problem at hand. Hopefuly you will touch deeper content and thereby be able to retrieve more threads to follow, some of which may be painful or which you would perfer to abandon or keep repressed. If you put off a few sessions it does not matter. It is useful to keep writing down your dreams durring any breach of your contract with yourself to self-analyze. Thus when you restart you have many new starting points. Interrupting your elf-analysis should be recognized as being a resistance and reviwed questoned such as “What isthe nature of my resistance?
–Chirobut
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April 27, 2009
~~~~Forbidden Teachings -The Drive System of the Experimental Diagnostics of Drives Drive tendencies Drive factors Drive vectors
Jacques Schotte asked “Why just these eight factors? Can not others exist?
“This possibility cannot be altogether denied. One thing however is certain: All suggestions advanced over the last ten years concerning additional drive factors, have after careful examination, been proven incorrect. The drive factors proposed as “new” turned out to be mere variations of known ones.” –L. Szondi
The administration of the Szondi Test is deceptively simple. From six groups you pick out the two, you like the most and the two you like the least. Before you reject this as fantasy and nonsense you should do, on sequential days, the test to create at least three profiles. Then after analysis, ask yourself, how close does the results describe you?
By the way, the little faded blue box of 48 photos of the eight psychiatric conditions has been moved to the web and the computer screen.
(c) L. SZONDI//Grune & Straton N.Y. 1952
The self-analyst without any such Szondi profiles may use the ‘10 Neurotic needs’ of Karen Horney as to what they are dealing with in themselves as thier analysis process uncoveres those strivings unsatisflied or conflictual.
April 12, 2009
The ten ‘Neurotic Needs of psychoanalyst, Karen Horney- They she pointed out were in part what a Self-ANALYST MUST RECOGNIZE IN HIMSELF DESPITE HIS RESISTANCE TO GAIN THE INSIGHTS NEEDED TO CHANGE HIMSELF.
The Neurotic Needs According to Karen Horney M.D.
Authority on Self-Analysis and the modernizer of psychoanalysis.
Neurotic needs are compulsive and cause anxiety.
“Basic anxiety is the foundation of the neurotic personality”. Horney identifies ten strategies and corresponding needs that neurotics develop to cope with their excessive anxiety and feelings of helplessness and loneliness”
Karen Horney first listed these 10 “neurotic needs” in Self-Analysis, 1942, pp. 51-56. (She also pointed out some limitations.)
“Needs Neurotic”
# 1
The neurotic need for affection and approval: (see The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, Chapter 6, on the need for affection): Some variations exist such, as the indiscriminate need to please others and to be liked and approved of by others. The automatic living up to the expectations of others;
Center of focus emotional in others and not in self, with their wishes and opinions the only thing that counts. Dread of self-assertion may be involved and the dread of hostility on the part of others or of hostile feelings within self.
#2
The neurotic need for a “partner” who will take over one’s life: (see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 15, on masochism, and E. Fromm’s Escape from Freedom, Chapter on authoritarianism.
Center of focus entirely in the “partner,” who is to fulfill all expectations of life and take responsibility for good and evil, his successful manipulation becoming the predominant task; and connected is the overvaluation of “love” because “love” is supposed to solve all problems;
Dread of desertion commonly the dread of being alone relates to both childhood experiences and real dangers of separation in the present.
#3
The neurotic need to restrict one’s life within narrow borders:
Necessity to be undemanding and contented with little, and to restrict ambitions and wishes for material things; (a compulsion, often overlooked item on many psychological inventories) or may exist as a compulsive ‘necessity’ to remain inconspicuous and to take second place; often with tendency to self-belittling ones good faculties and potentialities, with a exaggerated modesty. Compulsive urge to save rather than to spend. Dread of making any demands. Dread of having to start or follow through on asserting reasonable needs and rights.
#4
The neurotic need for power: ( The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, Chapter 10, on the need for power, prestige, and possession):
Domination over others craved for its own sake; excessive and compulsive devotion to cause, duty, responsibility, a maintained and open disrespect for ’others’, their individuality, their dignity, their feelings, the only concern being their subordination in the exchange. Often acts indiscriminate have adoration for strength and contempt for any weakness in other and sometimes in one’s own self. Compulsive control issue surfaces often as a dread of uncontrollable situations; dread of anything situating them as even momentarily helplessness.
The neurotic need to control both oneself and others may indirectly assert by use of reason and foresight and rule making and thus not openly show it’s deeper domination goal. It may be useful for those who are too inhibited to exert power directly and openly. Those with this neurotic striving often offer a strong belief in the omnipotence of intelligence and reason and deny the power of emotional forces and have contempt for them. At times, they dread any recognizing of limitations to the power of reason. A feeling of fortitude may be gained from the belief in the magic power of will (like possession of a wishing ring as if reality itself is to change because they wish it so.)
#5
The neurotic need to exploit others: - and by hook or crook get the better of them, others are evaluated primarily according to whether or not they can be exploited or made use of.
Various foci of exploitation–money (bargaining amounts to a passion), ideas, sexuality, feelings, followed by pride in exploitative skill or dread of being exploited and thus of being “stupid.”
#6
The neurotic need for social recognition or prestige: (may or may not be combined with a craving for power) For many under the compulsive push of the need, things–inanimate objects, money, persons, one’s own qualities, activities, and feelings are evaluated and accepted according to their prestige enhancing values.
They may follow the use of traditional or rebellious ways of inciting attention, envy or admiration, potentially magnified by concepts of losing face, caste, status any humiliation hurts, whether or not caused through external circumstances or through factors from within.
#7
The neurotic need for personal admiration: Inflated image of self (narcissism);
Need to be admired not for what one possesses or presents in the public eye, but for the imagined self:
Self-evaluation is dependent on living up to this image and on admiration of it by others;
Dread of losing admiration (”humiliation hurts”).
#8
The neurotic ambition for personal achievement: Need to surpass others not through what one presents or is but through one’s activities:
Thus. Self-evaluation is dependent on being the very best–lover, sportsman, writer, worker–particularly in one’s own mind, recognition by others being vital too, however, and its absence resented; Admixture of destructive tendencies (toward the defeat of others) never lacking but varying in intensity; Relentless driving of self to greater achievements, though with pervasive anxiety; Dread of failure (”humiliation”).
#9
The neurotic need for self-sufficiency and independence: -Necessity never to need anybody, or to yield to any influence, or to be tied down to anything, any closeness involving the danger of enslavement; Distance and separateness the only source of security; Dread of needing others, of ties, of closeness, of love.
#10
The neurotic need for perfection and unassailability: (see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 13, on the super-ego, and E. Fromm, Escape from Freedom, Chapter on conformity).
Relentless driving for perfection; Rumination and self-recriminations regarding possible flaws;
Feelings of superiority over others because of being perfect; Dread of finding flaws within self or of making mistakes; Dread of criticism or reproaches.
SOME SAY THIS LIST IS TOO LONG, SOME SAY TOO SHORT, SOME MAY OVERLAP. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO GRASP THAT ANYONE OF THEM COULD REPRESENT ELEMENTS IN YOURSELF.
THEY OR THEIR POLAR OPPOSITE NATURES EXIST IN EVERYONE IN VARIOUS PROPORTIONS [in L. Szondi’s concept as well] AND RISE TO IMPORTANCE WHEN THEY BECOME “NEUROTIC” THIS IS “NEUROTIC” AS DEFINED BY KAREN HORNEY. THESE ARE THOSE ONES WHICH CAUSE OUR FAILURES, UNHAPPINESS, AND UNDERMINES THE QUALITY OF LIFE ITSELF.
Note:”Need”, as a term, depends on context. It can be also a trend, striving, inclination, mind set, attitude, even a drive.
To find the context, try for yourself various terms trying those that seem the best fit, as one that appears most related to causation of the conflict under consideration.
–Chirobut
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April 7, 2009
[DIDACTIC] NEEDS PSYCHOLOGICAL THAT ANY WOULD BE SELF-ANALYST MUST GRASP.
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DIDACTIC FOR THE SELF-ANALYST
Authentic Needs are universal. You know most of them as the basic traits we all have and know about. They may be strong or weak, and at different times in
your life may change in importance and influence.
Needs of the authentic type have connected to them a ‘moving power’ that is able move you in respect to certain ‘others and yourself. (This may be new to you or you may intuitively have detected this in yourself
in how your relate to others.)
Detecting neurotc needs and how their power to ‘moves you’ to or from others, can be a
most useful self-analysis aid. By permitting the recognizing of such needs that compulsively, repetitiously, over time have moved you to your life situation. Be it good, bad or mixed. And which you now wish to understand better.
Needs of the authentic and basic type have connected to them a ‘moving power’, that regularly moves you in respect to a certain neurotic needs which if powerful or out of balance, cause you to reset your relationship to others and yourself.
1.] To others.
2.] Away from others.
3.] To join with internal aspects of yourself.
4.] Turn certain aspects of yourself against yourself.
This concept borrowed out of context, from from Psychoanalyst, Karen Horney, who is our authority of record on ’Self-Analysis’.
Dr. Honey did not say it exactly the way it is presented here, but it is the thrust of her observations that all needs of importance connect and belong to a
‘moving to/from, others (or self) process. It is a partly
conscious, but largely one the unconscious mind activity. In the course of conducting a attempted depth level self-analysis the detecting of this associated moving directing event is of marked value to anyone attempting to understand why something is has gone wrong in his life. Particularly when attempting to do so on his own without a live therapist. The neurotic needs (in this concept) invariably relate to some aspect of your relations to others or how your have come to see yourself. How you see yourself has to be carefully explored when looking for explanations. How you see yourself, and how you view others reveals the power from inside just beyond your will that sets your directions.
You may believe ’yourself’ is what self-analysis is all about. You will discover what you are all about is detectable and measured from determining just how you are in fact related to or from others.
Only you can dig out from your history, who and when and to what extent your psyche moved you to what ‘others’ means to you as you stand today.
The self-analysis discovery process is not a direct one and no one but you, can make yourself to change. That
is not an excuse to try.
You no doubt want to clarify what is meant by ‘authentic needs’ as some needs stand as normal and beneficial and others neurotic and misdirecting. Rest assured that you will know and name them by their influenes.
There are according to Karen Horney, ten neurotic needs.
You will generally recognize them when you reach them in yourself and submit them to exploration by means of systematic depth level free association process.
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See the !0 Neurotic Needs list the Blogroll.
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March 30, 2009
Your choices are mirror of your unconscious.
Photo form L. Szondi’s “Experimental Diagnostics of Drives” 1952 (c) Grune & Stratton, N.Y.

Subject’s choice, Like [h] photos:
[h+]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for, emotional softness, tenderness, feminine stance and body rapport desire seductive and a preference to keep it going and extract a token of emotional appreciation and support.
Subject’s choice, Dislike [h] photos:
[h-]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for, a self-sacrificing and distanced emotional stance, of the humanitarian, body rapport desire is cyclic, distanced or inconsistent.
Subject’s choice, Like [s] photos:
[s+]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for emotional hardness, masculine power stance, body rapport desire direct and preferably without obligation.
Subject’s choice, Dislike [s] photos:
[s-]= Vicissitudes of and strivings for, emotional passiveness, moral masochistic stance, body rapport indirect or homosexual.
This is the mirror logic for like and dislike of just two factors, when extended to all eight genic factors, you then are profiled as what you are in the mood of the moment. This is why samples need be taken daily or three times a week to reflect a person’s personality accurately.
Before you volunteer to take the genic test, to advance your self-analysis and/or have the reading discussed publicly on this Blog please read the disclaimer, about no claims of scientific value in any specific finding. You are to draw your own conclusions.
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Part of my revisions to my revised contract with myself was to report in monthly. Here it is May 31 and I have to push myself to do so before the month ends. Also this month I have forced myself to write my dreams down before they slip away. A set of dreams immediately followed. They make me face things I would just as soon avoid. |
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Just in case you think I am just a horny guy that lays this on you for the hell of it, below is my photo of the page in my dream book. Back when I went to live with my aunt K. I really enjoyed those TV commercials for the 18 hour bras that Jane Russell starred in. That speaks for itself. What I do not understand is the strange hair business?
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Why and How I Do My Self-Analysis -(JoAnn) “CRYBABYSTILL”- Invited Guest Blogger. BUT- first the Irrational reasons I started it. 1. The Sopranos (Renewed old fascination. 2. Dull Life 3. Internet Broadband
My husband says I am a blabber mouth and recommends I should consentrate on that. I guess he is right as that trait forces me to present my story in several parts. This is number one and the rest are about to come. I influenced the editor to put links to the Tony Soprano-Dr Melfi exchanges in the Blogroll so that you won’t have me sent to the funny farm.
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I felt, even years back, I could benefit from a psychoanalysis. This was not exactly a rational wish. Of course and I had both attraction, resistance and even a little embarrassment at the thought of being psychoanalyzed at all, in any form modern cognitive in a chair, or on grandfather Freud’s couch. In fact, I never was able to justify the seeking any professional help. I imagined I would be laughed at for admitting the only dumb reason I had to offer was that I wanted to explore me. This desire for analysis was not new with me, it had formed over the years, mainly from the movie versions of psychotherapists. I understood there nearly everything was (more…)
Your choices are mirror of your unconscious.Photo form L. Szondi’s “Experimental Diagnostics of Drives” 1952 (c) Grune & Stratton, N.Y.
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In my previous efforts at Self-analysis during the Dr. Phil ‘Self Matters’ book use I had made a list of my strengths and weaknesses. How embarrassed I am now when I look over all the lists I made then. Wow! was I kidding myself!
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May 1 2009In my previous efforts at Self-analysis during the Dr. Phil ‘Self Matters’ book use I had made a list of my strengths and weaknesses. How embarrassed I am now when I look over all the lists I made then. Wow! was I kidding myself! I had entered that I had had no baggage from my childhood, that my relations to my family as totally exemplary (I had forgot to ask my mother about this point-which I won’t go into in public.) (I had bragged to myself and the image of Dr. Phil which redefines by watching his show regularly -moved like a mirage just ahead of me as I worked my way through the inventories there. It was a good thing I saved my answers, and now have them to face. Seeing now where my self-analysis is taking me. How could I have so rewritten the actual facts of my life, even bragged my compulsive neurotic quirks were to be envied by the world. What brought this into focus was a major disruption in my family constellation caused by my (opps our) daughter leaving home with the help of her boy friend. And with a polarization within my family resulting, one where my parents and my usually supportive husband appear to object to such things as dragging her home bodily. They tell me to shut up, leave the kids alone, and never mind any talk of reaction formation. I guess they are being sensible and I am not. (Note this reluctance to accept their position.) Needless to say, this disrupts my systematic self-analysis procedures to the point I can not think of anything else. How could I have not seen this coming? How could my own parents and my husband view it so differently than I? (This and worse runs through my mind over and over). Should I discontinue my self-analysis procedures? Is there anything to be gained while I am so upset? |
| On the whole, there is no need to worry too much about outside interferences. You are realizing some aspects of your somewhat idealized view of yourself and not being totally realistic. Certainly give yourself t ime to cool off, try to see your daughter view, as well as the views of others in your family In most cases when decisive outside events deflect the course of analysis it is only for a short while. Unproductive sessions may happen, yet at some point you will get back to the deeperr personal problems, if only you stick to the spirit of the analytic process. Since most experiences can elicit a number of different responses, you can come to see a side of yourself that connects closest to the problem at hand. Hopefuly you will touch deeper content and thereby be able to retrieve more threads to follow, some of which may be painful or which you would perfer to abandon or keep repressed. If you put off a few sessions it does not matter. It is useful to keep writing down your dreams durring any breach of your contract with yourself to self-analyze. Thus when you restart you have many new starting points. Interrupting your elf-analysis should be recognized as being a resistance and reviwed questoned such as “What isthe nature of my resistance?
–Chirobut |
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~~~~Forbidden Teachings -The Drive System of the Experimental Diagnostics of Drives Drive tendencies Drive factors Drive vectors
Jacques Schotte asked “Why just these eight factors? Can not others exist?
“This possibility cannot be altogether denied. One thing however is certain: All suggestions advanced over the last ten years concerning additional drive factors, have after careful examination, been proven incorrect. The drive factors proposed as “new” turned out to be mere variations of known ones.” –L. Szondi
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The administration of the Szondi Test is deceptively simple. From six groups you pick out the two, you like the most and the two you like the least. Before you reject this as fantasy and nonsense you should do, on sequential days, the test to create at least three profiles. Then after analysis, ask yourself, how close does the results describe you?
By the way, the little faded blue box of 48 photos of the eight psychiatric conditions has been moved to the web and the computer screen.
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(c) L. SZONDI//Grune & Straton N.Y. 1952 |
| The self-analyst without any such Szondi profiles may use the ‘10 Neurotic needs’ of Karen Horney as to what they are dealing with in themselves as thier analysis process uncoveres those strivings unsatisflied or conflictual. |
The ten ‘Neurotic Needs of psychoanalyst, Karen Horney- They she pointed out were in part what a Self-ANALYST MUST RECOGNIZE IN HIMSELF DESPITE HIS RESISTANCE TO GAIN THE INSIGHTS NEEDED TO CHANGE HIMSELF.
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“Needs Neurotic”# 1The neurotic need for affection and approval: (see The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, Chapter 6, on the need for affection): Some variations exist such, as the indiscriminate need to please others and to be liked and approved of by others. The automatic living up to the expectations of others;Center of focus emotional in others and not in self, with their wishes and opinions the only thing that counts. Dread of self-assertion may be involved and the dread of hostility on the part of others or of hostile feelings within self.#2The neurotic need for a “partner” who will take over one’s life: (see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 15, on masochism, and E. Fromm’s Escape from Freedom, Chapter on authoritarianism.Center of focus entirely in the “partner,” who is to fulfill all expectations of life and take responsibility for good and evil, his successful manipulation becoming the predominant task; and connected is the overvaluation of “love” because “love” is supposed to solve all problems;Dread of desertion commonly the dread of being alone relates to both childhood experiences and real dangers of separation in the present.#3The neurotic need to restrict one’s life within narrow borders:Necessity to be undemanding and contented with little, and to restrict ambitions and wishes for material things; (a compulsion, often overlooked item on many psychological inventories) or may exist as a compulsive ‘necessity’ to remain inconspicuous and to take second place; often with tendency to self-belittling ones good faculties and potentialities, with a exaggerated modesty. Compulsive urge to save rather than to spend. Dread of making any demands. Dread of having to start or follow through on asserting reasonable needs and rights. #4The neurotic need for power: ( The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, Chapter 10, on the need for power, prestige, and possession):Domination over others craved for its own sake; excessive and compulsive devotion to cause, duty, responsibility, a maintained and open disrespect for ’others’, their individuality, their dignity, their feelings, the only concern being their subordination in the exchange. Often acts indiscriminate have adoration for strength and contempt for any weakness in other and sometimes in one’s own self. Compulsive control issue surfaces often as a dread of uncontrollable situations; dread of anything situating them as even momentarily helplessness.The neurotic need to control both oneself and others may indirectly assert by use of reason and foresight and rule making and thus not openly show it’s deeper domination goal. It may be useful for those who are too inhibited to exert power directly and openly. Those with this neurotic striving often offer a strong belief in the omnipotence of intelligence and reason and deny the power of emotional forces and have contempt for them. At times, they dread any recognizing of limitations to the power of reason. A feeling of fortitude may be gained from the belief in the magic power of will (like possession of a wishing ring as if reality itself is to change because they wish it so.)#5The neurotic need to exploit others: - and by hook or crook get the better of them, others are evaluated primarily according to whether or not they can be exploited or made use of.Various foci of exploitation–money (bargaining amounts to a passion), ideas, sexuality, feelings, followed by pride in exploitative skill or dread of being exploited and thus of being “stupid.”#6The neurotic need for social recognition or prestige: (may or may not be combined with a craving for power) For many under the compulsive push of the need, things–inanimate objects, money, persons, one’s own qualities, activities, and feelings are evaluated and accepted according to their prestige enhancing values.They may follow the use of traditional or rebellious ways of inciting attention, envy or admiration, potentially magnified by concepts of losing face, caste, status any humiliation hurts, whether or not caused through external circumstances or through factors from within.#7The neurotic need for personal admiration: Inflated image of self (narcissism);Need to be admired not for what one possesses or presents in the public eye, but for the imagined self:Self-evaluation is dependent on living up to this image and on admiration of it by others;Dread of losing admiration (”humiliation hurts”).#8The neurotic ambition for personal achievement: Need to surpass others not through what one presents or is but through one’s activities:Thus. Self-evaluation is dependent on being the very best–lover, sportsman, writer, worker–particularly in one’s own mind, recognition by others being vital too, however, and its absence resented; Admixture of destructive tendencies (toward the defeat of others) never lacking but varying in intensity; Relentless driving of self to greater achievements, though with pervasive anxiety; Dread of failure (”humiliation”).#9The neurotic need for self-sufficiency and independence: -Necessity never to need anybody, or to yield to any influence, or to be tied down to anything, any closeness involving the danger of enslavement; Distance and separateness the only source of security; Dread of needing others, of ties, of closeness, of love.#10The neurotic need for perfection and unassailability: (see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 13, on the super-ego, and E. Fromm, Escape from Freedom, Chapter on conformity).Relentless driving for perfection; Rumination and self-recriminations regarding possible flaws;Feelings of superiority over others because of being perfect; Dread of finding flaws within self or of making mistakes; Dread of criticism or reproaches. |
SOME SAY THIS LIST IS TOO LONG, SOME SAY TOO SHORT, SOME MAY OVERLAP. THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO GRASP THAT ANYONE OF THEM COULD REPRESENT ELEMENTS IN YOURSELF.THEY OR THEIR POLAR OPPOSITE NATURES EXIST IN EVERYONE IN VARIOUS PROPORTIONS [in L. Szondi’s concept as well] AND RISE TO IMPORTANCE WHEN THEY BECOME “NEUROTIC” THIS IS “NEUROTIC” AS DEFINED BY KAREN HORNEY. THESE ARE THOSE ONES WHICH CAUSE OUR FAILURES, UNHAPPINESS, AND UNDERMINES THE QUALITY OF LIFE ITSELF.Note:”Need”, as a term, depends on context. It can be also a trend, striving, inclination, mind set, attitude, even a drive.To find the context, try for yourself various terms trying those that seem the best fit, as one that appears most related to causation of the conflict under consideration.–Chirobut |
[DIDACTIC] NEEDS PSYCHOLOGICAL THAT ANY WOULD BE SELF-ANALYST MUST GRASP.

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A STARTER |
| Authentic Needs are universal. You know most of them as the basic traits we all have and know about. They may be strong or weak, and at different times in your life may change in importance and influence. |
| Needs of the authentic type have connected to them a ‘moving power’ that is able move you in respect to certain ‘others and yourself. (This may be new to you or you may intuitively have detected this in yourself in how your relate to others.) |
| Detecting neurotc needs and how their power to ‘moves you’ to or from others, can be a most useful self-analysis aid. By permitting the recognizing of such needs that compulsively, repetitiously, over time have moved you to your life situation. Be it good, bad or mixed. And which you now wish to understand better. |
| Needs of the authentic and basic type have connected to them a ‘moving power’, that regularly moves you in respect to a certain neurotic needs which if powerful or out of balance, cause you to reset your relationship to others and yourself.
1.] To others. 2.] Away from others. 3.] To join with internal aspects of yourself. 4.] Turn certain aspects of yourself against yourself. |
| This concept borrowed out of context, from from Psychoanalyst, Karen Horney, who is our authority of record on ’Self-Analysis’. |
| Dr. Honey did not say it exactly the way it is presented here, but it is the thrust of her observations that all needs of importance connect and belong to a ‘moving to/from, others (or self) process. It is a partly conscious, but largely one the unconscious mind activity. In the course of conducting a attempted depth level self-analysis the detecting of this associated moving directing event is of marked value to anyone attempting to understand why something is has gone wrong in his life. Particularly when attempting to do so on his own without a live therapist. The neurotic needs (in this concept) invariably relate to some aspect of your relations to others or how your have come to see yourself. How you see yourself has to be carefully explored when looking for explanations. How you see yourself, and how you view others reveals the power from inside just beyond your will that sets your directions. |
| You may believe ’yourself’ is what self-analysis is all about. You will discover what you are all about is detectable and measured from determining just how you are in fact related to or from others.
|
| The self-analysis discovery process is not a direct one and no one but you, can make yourself to change. That is not an excuse to try. |
| You no doubt want to clarify what is meant by ‘authentic needs’ as some needs stand as normal and beneficial and others neurotic and misdirecting. Rest assured that you will know and name them by their influenes. |
| There are according to Karen Horney, ten neurotic needs.
You will generally recognize them when you reach them in yourself and submit them to exploration by means of systematic depth level free association process. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - See the !0 Neurotic Needs list the Blogroll. |
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