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February 8, 2010

Mountain Software Writer: February 2010

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2/08/10 E-Mail from: Mountain Software Writer//To fateanalysisguy@gmail

Dreams Point to problems in my dull personal life.

1) My apartment walls need new new paint. 2) An interesting Mamma (Italian) stirs guilt. 3) g-Mail account problem= a transparent Freudian sex symbol.

The Dreams:

1) My apartment walls somehow, needs paint, a professional house painter comes and says he detects the walls had been painted inadequately sometime in the past and the old paint had to be removed before re-painting.

I reply, I know all about paint and he is mistaken, that it was normal fading and weathering, As I say this, I am embarrassed to see that the paint had started to crack and separate in places and that he could be right. I them feel uncomfortable over having made such an assertion.
#2 Italian restaurant. It is one run by an older woman, who is my lover and we appear to happy together. She is widowed and her son Giovanni, comes to visit after not being around for a long time. He has reddish hair and a moustache, which looks, untrimm and gives him an unkempt look. His eyes sort of nastigmus-like shake when he looked at me. I wondered, if he is angry with his mom or me over our relationship. However he spoke only about how ill he had been and how unproductive financially his art efforts were. I somehow knew. that all this had something to do with his living with his emotionally disturbed women art models, who were also drug addicts.

I am also somehow, an artist, my works,- landscapes, are displayed around the restaurant.

Behind the windows of the upper story, a group of posters on paper are viable from the ground. These are the work of her son, They are professional quality, but some are sun faded. He takes these posters and leaves.
3) A problem repeats several times in this dream, about opening my g-mail account, after several try I conclude it is server problem and not with my PC or password.

While still half asleep I analyze this dream as one of psychoanalytic sex symbols where g-mail becomes male-genital and shifts to the server side, responsibility for my present state of detactment from a significant love. Then I think, of the earler dream of the loving older woman at the Italian restauant and it amuses me that my CBT psychologist friend will tell me, deam analysis is achrcaic nonesence, that his instructors tell him it is a waste of time for any CBT trained therapist. I wake up, it is 4 A.M. Decide it was all just dream stuff.

My Take on this:

Sure there is love missing in my life, I know that consciously. Why does my unconcious even bother to restate that with dream events?

Maybe some of you can answere that question for me!

Send your thoughts or comments to fateanalysisguy@gmail.com, Put’ older woman dream’ in the subject and it will get to me.

Thanks all,

Mountain Software Writer.

January 13, 2010

Flashcard: Self-Analysis

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flash card: revisionist psychology. Our Revisionists include social and education views.
In a systematic self-analysis, one also must be open to discovery and as well, some unpleasantness is to follow from this crossing of old and new content. Content often containing
childhood history, present conflicts and importantly the dissonance of that comes from what you are and what you wish to be.
Don’t try to remember this. It will stick in your mind relative to what it means to you. There are no therapists or psychogists for hire at this site.You are your own therapist here. We suggest a systematic self-analysis that you can learn to do yourself.

January 8, 2010

“CRYBABYSTILL”- Invited Guest Blogger January 8, 2010 Two dreams:

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  • -(JoAnn) “CRYBABYSTILL”-
    Invited Guest Blogger



    January 8, 2010


  • Two dreams: 1. Really bad experience as a beauty operator, assault, police questioning.

    2. Desire to get married, ugly legs, Golf skills demonstrated.

Comment:I was at work-but not my real life work, it was somewhat like the

Southern California Villa I had seen in my earlier dream of applying

for a job at a TV production company. Only this time, the grassy shaded

area was not provided with benches but a intervals were beauty shop

stations, they were more like ones I had seen in a movies about

celebrities having their hair done, than any one I had ever been in. I

am not a beauty operator or as far as I can remember ever wanted to be

one. For economy reasons my mom used to do my hair with hair kits from

Walgreen’s drug store, most the time. A trip to the beauty shop was for

special occasions al through my school years and even later. Also

unless was when I was very small did I ever have a physical

altercations with my mom.

The Two Dreams:

I was at work-but not my real life work, it was somewhat like the Southern

California Villa I had seen in my earlier dream of applying for a job at a

TV production company. Only this time, the grassy shaded area was not

provided with benches but a intervals were beauty shop stations, they
were more like ones I had seen in a movies about celebrities having
their hair done, than any one I had ever been in. I am not a beauty
operator or as far as I can remember ever wanted to be one. For economy
reasons my mom used to do my hair with hair kits from Walgreen’s drug
store, most the time. A trip to the beauty shop was for special
occasions al through my school years and even later. Also unless was
when I was very small did I ever have a physical altercations with my
mom.

*

The Dream:

The dream had me giving an older woman a shampoo and set -

I was worried about doingthis as I feared I might be able to do so competently

. Also there was not enough time to fully set her hair before the 7 o’clock

closing time. Never the less I started.

At some point I
decided I needed to use on her hair the barber shears (perhaps to have
less hair that would then set faster?) There were no proper shears in
the equipment drawers, so I went into the building to get them. Somehow
in searching for shears I took a wrong turn and had to use a unfamiliar
exit door which I hoped would take me back to the lady -however, it
didn’t go all the way as it just stopped midway-. Somehow I resolved
the passage issue and got back to her.

I told her a story to try to allay her unhappiness over this obvious incompetence, It was
that the shears were had been put away by the people who work with me
but were off today and I there for did not for that reason know exactly
where to find them quickly. But this was to no avail she was crazy
angry and grabbed the shears and a struggle followed. I felt terribly
guilty wresting the shears away from her, but I could see it was coming
down to either her or me as to who is going to get hurt.  She
realizes her arm is now cut and bleeding and finally accepts my help to
wrap it in a towel. She calms down and I call an ambulance.

The ambulance
arrived and we both got in. I finally did the older woman’s hair on the
way. She despite the upsetting circumstances said “Remember ‘I want
nice light waves and use those wave curlers’ - With doubts as to
whether I could do so, I STARTED SETTING HER HAIR.

At the emergency room, when we arrived a police team surrounded us and detained me while
the woman was taken to the doctors by an officer and I was questioned.
The questioning officer I think was the same one who was honored in my
earlier police banquet dream, only this time he was dressed in police
street actions type jacket and boots. An assistant took down every word
I said. Realizing the seriousness of possible criminal accusations,
decided I would revamp the truth to make it all sound as accidental as
possible without lying too much. I feared what story the woman might
give the police. I omitted her attack on me and said instead she was
very restless and moved causing the shears to cut her. The officer was
very accusatory, pointing to scratches and black and blue spots that
were starting to develop on my arms. I said I don’t know. After some
time I was told I could go as the woman’s story was similar to mine,
with some minor inconsistencies, I felt relived.


Two nights later:

I (sort of) woke tonight with the thought I was very desirous to get married-

Something about me had
been blocking this before. But I couldn’t say, what for sure. I remember though

it had something to do with my legs which someone mean
had called ‘4 legs’. It seems as though in my dream everyone was
expecting me to fail in this desire and yet I knew within myself I
could.

Somehow I first had to go out, and descend a slope -As I stepped from the cement curb to
the green grass, I had to side step deposits of horse manure. The
grassy space appeared to be un cared for, and in some places dry and
dead. Then when I got on the higher located green, I think there was a
high wind but I think I did O.K. holding my own against it. There were
others there too bucking the wind and hitting golf balls in to it with
apparent pleasure. When I also tried this successfully the people
didn’t seem quite so derisive or unfriendly.


I would like your comments and analysis
of my dreams’Just put “Beauty operator” or “Golf”" in the I subject and
I’ll try to make use of what you say. Send it to me at
fateanalysisguy@gmail.com
Use search at bottom Blogroll to separate
out my posts
as. “Crybabystill”

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January 5, 2010

Dreameryv2 January 5, 2010 Christmas Time, makes me dream crazy. Gender Switched, Spy Chaser.

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January 5, 2010

Christmas Time, makes me dream crazy.

Gender Switched Spy Chaser.

Dreamerv2 at Christmas Time I guess I am unusually sensitive to holidays. I seem to dream a lot over holidays but usually in intermittent bursts, sometimes re-running parts of old dreams, day remembrances, and often ones. which carry hints of threats and obvious warning signals. As as hard as try, often I can I remember only bits and pieces of these dreams. For the standpoint of analyzing them, this creates disjointed content, which are difficult to connect from one fragment to the next one. Sometimes identifying the common recognized symbols is the best I can do. When this happens, I feel very let down and not inclined to share them. The group below is an example. But maybe you can get things from the mix that I am blocked from. #1 Had a dream about Christmas and the Day’s happenings, and at Berkeley [student unrest over fee hikes?] Some how the Berkeley events caused concern and cast an anxious mood over my families preparations for a family get together. [Pretty vague here and I have no special connection to any Berkeley university students other than what shows in the news.} #2 [also] had a dream later that night about Christmas-that I can’t remember, at all. [I think it had a better mood than the first one.] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Next night Dec 23 #1 Had a big long dream but all I remember is I was going out for dinner with my folks, my sister and her husband, and two little girls. Everyone was ready to go, but me. I was somehow was taking too long. I was insistent on going around and check everything to make sure everything was locked up. My family was markedly irritated at me. I remember an other part too- outside the house was a big body of water (in obviously not Dec 23 weather) in which there were two men and a girl besides me in this water. We had something like rubber wings to help us float there. Anyway the fellows were showing us where all the sharks were and said that we should stay away from them. It seems to me somewhere in dream there was a huge snake eating a dog or something. There was also something else eaten by something. #2 My dream changed or was a new dream -I can’t be sure–to one where I was sitting somewhere at a dance I was talking to a boy. We started dancing and then somehow it was I was married. I had my wedding band on . Everyone was looking at it with admiration and then I was dancing and talking with one of my girl friends. Then two of the girls started dancing the Charleston -showing off and holding the attention of the crowd, so I and my friends went over and sat down, After that I woke up. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - December 24, #1 Someone came over with a spider (This was unpleasant to me.) They were for some reason going to hypnotize me and psychoanalyze me. Later it (the spider) turned into a doll. [Much easier to accept] I think I was un-hospitably and they gave up the effort. #2 (Still loosely part of the previous night’s dance and wedding theme.) Then my girl friend and I went out. While we were out we had all kinds of telephone calls. One was from Fred B. he wanted to come over and see my wedding pictures. He said he would come over at noon the next day. Fred was working his way through college and he was working in the cafeteria where I went to eat. [Fred is a old family friend and graduated from collage many years ago and never worked during college or had any connection to any cafeteria I ever ate at.] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - December 25, In night after midnight. #1 I was on an island somewhere with a lot of other people. There were of lot of houses, but they were only like stage props. When you’d walked into a house you’d walk into the side of the huge mountain that consisted of most of the island. At the top of the mountain one could look over and see Russia. We could see there was a big outdoor theater where orchestras performed, etc. Also we could see a couple of schools and some other buildings. I can’t remember what they were now. Anyway there was a Russian army officer, hiding at the top of the mountain and he was was watching every move we made, Then he would report it across the water to the Russians. There was, in our group. one girl that knew he was there. She was in love with him and would do anything to keep him from being discovered and being taken away. There was at least one other man who knew about the Russian at the top (I was the a man at this time)[I was aware of an liked the gender switch in the dream.] I was the first to recognize that something was going wrong. I saw a small star like light flashing a couple of times and wondered what it was. I was going to climb the mountain and find out-as to be on the safe side. However the amorous involved girl always distracted me one way or another. Somehow I knew the purpose of our being on the island was to see if we could get a rocket to the moon for future military use and the process was in progress. We finally did and got back little pieces of crystallized glass,[that we understood meant] yellow for the bright side, black for the dark side and a combination of yellow and black for the side that half light and half dark. This was somehow an important discovery we were to keep to our selves and not permit transmission of to the Russians. Shortly after this information discovery, the Russian spy with the help of the amorous girl started to get rid of all of us who knew of his work here. He stuffed medicated pills in my mouth and those others in my party and tied us to surf boards to set us floating in the bay, where we would be no threat to him or his mission. However our supply man who was climbing the mountain some distance behind us came to our rescue. The Russian officer who was trying to get rid of us [He looked like, Bob O, a salesperson at work who is too helpful, and radiates sexual intentions whenever he gets close to you.] In the dream It seemed really clever the way the officer, had everything all rigged up to blow up when that was needed. However his plan didn’t work. Quickly all of our people were evacuated over to another island where they would be safe, Then, a chosen few of us went back to the island. {I think I am still male role acting in the dream} Then some things happened that somehow established an ending to the dream. but I don’t remember exactly what. [I guess it was imprisoning the officer and his girl friend.] #2 After some transitions I dreamt, I was walking in the snow down the main street of my hometown. I was going somewhere to get my father something - [my association later was a tool he needed for work, a medicine for a cold he had, a gift for mother, sister or me.] I didn’t remember anymore- I woke up.
If you have comments or an analysis of this dream, contact me at: fateanalysisguy@gmail.com Put :”Gender Switched Spy Chaser Dream” in the subject.
January 7, 2010

Hi Everyone,

I relieved some feedback that was pause me to think- Iw was ointed out to me that the  ’Gender switch’ event was as Freu’s male envy thing -O.K. I admit to a pre adolescent tom bay phase, that I
believed I had long abandoned. But the suggestion that the Russian
offices spy and his amorous girl were also hidden parts of my
subconscious world, took me by surprise-While my first inclination was to
laugh at the preposterous notion that I might harbor vindictive
impulses, killer inclination and voyeur impulses.  I later examined
this with some focus and concluded, that if I do have such impulses they are truly
repressed and not acceptable to me as being any part of my normal
persona. I am willing to leave such things open for later evidence. It could be that there may exist a part of me that should stay repressed

Dreameryv3

January 4, 2010

01/04/10 E-Mail from: Mountain Software Writer: Dog Napper Dream

01/04/10 E-Mail from: Mountain Software Writer//To fateanalysisguy@gmail Continuing with my contract with myself to report in monthly. Here it is January of 2010 and continue to push myself to do so before the month ends. I am almost word for word free associating to every element in the dream. This sometimes leads to childhood, other time to the space that I believe to be my present life, conflicts and wishes. I set aside an hour at least three days a week for the purpose. I notice that I am beginning to free associate silently to my self whenever some human interactions come to pass. While the goal was to understand myself I see evidence it is also helping me understand others.
Dream: I arrive late at the HP Computer assembly plant in Santa Clara, (where in the dream) I am to demonstrate my current company’s new hardware and software products on the prototypes that are about to go into production. The facility is locate near an IHOP Restaurant. Somehow I am dropped off at the street and have to walk uphill carrying my bag of demonstration equipment, I pass a red and black colored guard house, something like one you would expect at a royal palace and arrive at the HP main building. The room set aside for this was empty when I entered. Someone there tells me that because I am late the meeting was cancelled and the company officials and gone for lunch at the IHOP restaurant and that I might catch up with them there. I feel disturbed and embarrassed at this and I puzzle how to on foot, to get through the heavy traffic running on state highway was between where I was and the restaurant I could see on the other side.(for some reason the guard house and blue roof of the restaurant where in bright color.) I try reaching IHOP on my cell phone, I get a recorded message that I am out of my access area. I go back and ask the guard, if he has any suggestions. Courteous and polite, he offers the advice to wait and that crossing the highway here is dangerous and illegal. I feel trapped and have visions of trying to explain loosing a major contract for my employer, due to my being late. As I wait, I, in my thoughts deny the possibility that I could be late and play with various explanations.

Somehow then, I am standing outside the main building. A dog immaculately groomed with long glistening reddish hair approaches me. And friendly rubs his nose on my leg and looks up at me as if to see if I was reciprocating its need for attention and affection. I pet the dog and make some silly dog talk, just as if the dog understood every word I said.

Suddenly two policemen grab me, ordered me on to my knees and have me put my hands behind me so they can handcuff me and then pat me down for weapons. (Just as in TV cop shows.) I protest-

“..you people are making some kind of mistake.” They laugh-’We got it on tape You stealing the company president’s dog- -”-stay on your knees until the jail transport arrives.”

Then I am driven to the rear of the Santa Clara Police station, a large building, across from the local train station.

Inside I was taken to a booking room, and was told to shut up and face the truth, that they had the notorious dog-napper.

I am still handcuffed and my cell phone- now in the hands of a woman I think she is a prosecutor, it rings and with a sly smile she answers the call and trys to pump who ever was calling into revealing details about themselves and what part they play in the criminal activity. I gather from the talk. the call was from Grace, my former secretary. I loudly speak up: “Tell these people the police they have the wrong man!”

I am shoved in a cell and to my surprise the dog is there and happily wags it tail as if overjoyed to be with me. On a bench, there are several outdated computers and with the dog close to me and watching, I try using the computer to pick up an Internet connection through the Starbuck Coffee Shop’s, internet service, located just across the parking lot near the police station.

This fails and I ask for my laptop and I am told it is being examined by forensics. A man comes to the cell door, and says he is an attorney. The dog snarls at him and won’t let him in.

He leaves offended as if it was me insulting him and says- ” O.K. stay there.”

Suddenly, Steve Jobs from Apple Computer, [not HP and from miles away] appears and the dog goes ecstatic and it is obvious they belong together. He thanks me, takes the dog and leaves. I am released and told to get on the shuttle bus, #10, to the San Jose Airport, as if the police still considered me a person unwelcome or with criminal intent.

This dream has some strange kinks in it. First of all the HP company has been doing their own tests, and I would not need to go there at all. While I have had some dealings with Apple Computer, I have never met Steve Jobs in person. The dog so friendly, intelligent and attractive, I wish I had one like it. My psychologist friend has features that resemble the attorney. (some hidden resentment here? The police represent, maybe some father directed resentment-Oh! the female prosecutor! I must explore that issue.)

The police charges represent some kind of guilt trip. Grace, so loyal and supportive. She stands for the mother, who would get me out of any difficulty, even if she had to lie to do so. However, she is out of reach here. What about the guardhouse and the blue restaurant roof and the dog in bright color? Why dog-napper and not something more plausible crime?

Of course I have a mass of personal associations to this dream that I am not reporting. But what I would like you to do: is to help me by sending me your associations or symbolic analysis.

fateanalysisguy@gmail.com Put “Dog-Napper” in the subject bar.

Thanks

-Mountain Software Writer.

January 3, 2010

There is the possibility of a systematic self-analysis.

flash card: revisionist psychology. Our Revisionists include social and education views.

It should be obvious to any discerning
person, that it is not practical to enroll everyone who could benefit from it, in an full blown psychoanalysis with a professional therapist.
For this excluded group (for what ever reason) there is  the possibility of systematic
self-analysis which is feasible with some practical instruction.

Don’t try to remember this. It will stick in your mind relative to what it means to you. There are no therapists or psychogists for hire at this site.You are your own therapist here.

January 1, 2010

Basic Conflict- You have it-They have it-Neurotic’s have it decisively.

#Our Inner Conflicts. For 2010 we take a look backward to 1945 and a reminder, that today’s psychological concepts have a past, which set the foundation for today’s valied teachings. Back to the future, may not be just a clever phrase, after all.

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Karen Horney, M.D. (c) 1945 W. W. Norton, INC.

CHAPTER TWO The Basic Conflict CONFLICTS play an infinitely greater role in neurosis than is commonly assumed. To detect them, however, is no easy matter-partly because they are essentially unconscious, but even more because the neurotic goes to any length to deny their existence. What, then, are the signals that would warrant us to suspect underlying conflicts? In the examples cited in the previous chapter their presence was indicated by two factors, both fairly obvious. One was the resulting symptoms-fatigue in the first case, stealing in the second. The fact is that every neurotic symptom points to an underlying conflict; that is, every symptom is a more or less direct outgrowth of a conflict. We shall see gradually what unresolved conflicts do to people, how they produce states of anxiety, depression, indecision, inertia, detachment, and so on. An understanding of the causative relation here helps direct our attention from the manifest disturbances to their source-though the exact nature of the source will not be disclosed. The other signal indicating that conflicts were in operation was inconsistency. In the first example we saw a man convinced of a procedure being wrong and of injustice done him, making no move to protest. In the second a person who highly valued friendship turned to stealing money from a friend. Sometimes the person 34 himself will be aware of such inconsistencies; more often he is blind to them even when they are blatantly obvious to an untrained observer. Inconsistencies are as definite an indication of the presence of conflicts as a rise in body temperature is of physical disturbance. To cite some common ones: A girl wants above all else to marry, yet shrinks from the advances of any man. A mother oversolicitous of her children frequently forgets their birthdays. A person always generous to others is niggardly about small expenditures for himself. Another who longs for solitude never manages to be alone. One forgiving and tolerant toward most people is oversevere and demanding with himself. Unlike the symptoms, the inconsistencies often permit of tentative assumptions as to the nature of the underlying conflict. An acute depression, for instance, reveals only the fact that a person is caught in a dilemma. But if an apparently devoted mother forgets her children’s birthdays, we might be inclined to think that the mother was more devoted to her ideal of being a good mother than to the children themselves. We might also admit the possibility that her ideal collided with an unconscious sadistic tendency to frustrate them. Sometimes a conflict will appear on the surface-that is, be consciously experienced as such. This would seem to contradict my assertion that neurotic conflicts are unconscious. But actually what appears is a distortion or modification of the real conflict. Thus a person may be torn by a conscious conflict when, in spite of his evasive techniques, well-functioning otherwise, he. finds himself confronted with the necessity of making a major de- 35 cision. He cannot decide now whether to marry this woman or that one or whether to marry at all, whether to take this or that job, whether to retain or dissolve a partnership. He will then go through the greatest torment, shuttling from one opposite to the other, utterly incapable of arriving at any decision. He may in his distress call upon an analyst, expecting him to clarify the particular issues involved. And he will necessarily be disappointed, because the present conflict is merely the point at which the dynamite of inner frictions finally exploded. The particular problem distressing him now cannot be solved without taking the long and tortuous road of recognizing the conflicts hidden beneath it. In other instances the inner conflict may be externalized and appear in the person’s conscious mind as an incompatibility between himself and his environment. Or, finding that seemingly unfounded fears and inhibitions interfere with his wishes, a person may be aware ~that the crosscurrents within himself issue from deeper sources. The more knowledge we gain of a person, the better able we are to recognize the conflicting elements that account for the symptoms, inconsistencies, and surface conflicts-and, we must add, the more confusing becomes the picture, through the number and variety of contradictions. So we are led to ask: Can there be a basic conflict underlying all these particular conflicts and originally responsible for all of them? Can one picture the structure of conflict in terms, say, of an incompatible marriage, *where an endless variety of apparently unrelated disagreements and rows over friends, 36 children, finances, mealtimes, servants, all point to some fundamental disharmony in the relationship itself?  A belief in a basic conflict within the human personality is ancient and plays a prominent role in various religions and philosophies. The powers of light and darkness, of God and the devil, of good and evil are some of the ways in which this belief has been expressed. In modern psychology, Freud, on this score as on so many others, has done pioneer work. His first assumption was that the basic conflict is one between our instinctual drives, with their blind urge for satisfaction, and the forbidding environment-family and society. The forbidding environment is internalized at an early age and appears from then on as the forbidding superego. It is hardly appropriate here to discuss this concept with the seriousness it deserves. That would require a recapitulation of all the arguments that have been raised against the libido theory. Let us try rather to understand the meaning of the concept itself, even if we discard Freud’s theoretical premises. What remains, then, is the contention that the opposition between primitive egocentric drives and our forbidding conscience is the basic source of our manifold conflicts. As will be seen later, I, too, attribute to this opposition -or what is roughly comparable to it in my way of thinking-a significant place in the structure of neuroses. What I dispute is its basic nature. My belief is that though it is a major conflict, it is secondary and arises of necessity durling the development of a neurosis. The reasons for this refutation will become apparent , 37 later on. Just this one argument here: I do not believe that any conflict between desires and fears could ever account for the extent to which a neurotic is divided within himself and for an outcome so detrimental that it can actually ruin a person’s life. A psychic situation such as Freud postulates would imply that a neurotic retains the capacity to strive for something wholeheartedly, that he merely is frustrated in these strivings by the blocking action of fears. lAs I see it, the source of the conflict revolves around the neurotic’s loss of capacity to wish for anything wholeheartedly because his very  wishes are divided, that is, go in opposite directions.’ This would constitute a much more serious condition indeed than the one Freud visualized. In spite of the fact that I consider the fundamental conflict more disruptive than Freud does, my view of the possibility of an eventual solution is more positive than his. According to Freud, the basic conflict is universal and in principle cannot be resolved: all that can be done is to arrive at better compromises or at better control. According to my view, the basic neurotic conflict does not necessarily have to arise in the first place and is possible of resolution if it does arise-provided the sufferer is willing to undergo the considerable effort and hardship involved. This difference is not a matter of optimism or pessimism but inevitably results from the difference in our premises. ————— Freud’s later answer to the question of a basic conflict is philosophically quite appealing. Again setting 1 Cf. [1]Franz Alexander, “The Relation of Structural and Instinctual Conflicts,” Psychoanalytic Quarterly, Vol. XI, No. 2, April, 1933. 38 ————- aside the various implications of his line of thought, his theory of a “life” and “death” instinct boils down to a conflict between constructive and destructive forces in human beings. Freud himself was less interested in bringing this concept to bear on conflicts than he was in the way the two forces are alloyed. He saw the possibility, for instance, of explaining masochistic and sadistic drives as a fusion between sexual and destructive instincts. To apply this concept to the study of conflicts would have required the introduction of moral values. These, however, were to Freud illicit intruders in the realm of science. In line with his convictions, he strove to develop a psychology devoid of moral values. I believe that this very attempt to be “scientific” in the sense of the natural sciences is one of the more cogent reasons ( why Freud’s theories and the therapy based on them are confined within too narrow channels. More specifically, it seems to have contributed to his failure to appreciate the role of conflicts in neurosis, despite his extensive work in this field. Jung also placed considerable emphasis on the opposing tendencies in human beings. Indeed he was so impressed with the contradictions at work in the individual that he took it to be a general law that the presence of any element would of necessity indicate the presence also of its opposite. An outward femininity implied an inward masculinity; a surface extraversion, a concealed introversion; an outward preponderance of thinking and reasoning, an inner preponderance of feeling, and so on. Up to this point it would appear that Jung regarded conflicts as an essential feature of neu- 39 rosis. However, he goes on to say that these opposites are not conflicting but complementary-the goal is to accept both and thereby approximate the ideal of wholeness. `To him the neurotic is a person who has been stranded in a one-sided development.Jung formulated these concepts in what he called the law of complements. Now I, too, recognize that the opposing tendencies contain complementary elements neither of which can be dispensed with in an integrated personality. But in my opinion these are already outgrowths of neurotic conflicts and are so tenaciously adhered to because they represent attempts at solution. If, for instance, we regard a tendency toward being introspective, withdrawn, more concerned with one’s own feelings, thoughts, or imagination than with other persons’ as an authentic inclination-that is, constitutionally established and reinforced by experience-then Jung’s reasoning would be correct. The effective therapeutic procedure would be to show the person his hidden “extravert” tendencies, to point out the dangers of one-sidedness in either direction, and encourage him to accept and live out both tendencies. If, however, we look upon introversion (or, as I prefer to call it, neurotic detachment) as a means of evading conflicts that arise in close contact with others, the task is not to encourage more extraversion but to analyze the underlying conflicts. The goal of wholeheartedness can be approximated only after these have been resolved. Proceeding now to evolve my own position, I see the basic conflict of the neurotic in the fundamentally contradictory attitudes he has acquired toward other per- 40 sons. Before going into detail, let me call attention to the dramatization of such a contradiction in the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. We see him on the one hand delicate, sensitive, sympathetic, helpful, and on the other brutal, callous, and egotistical. I do not, of course, mean to imply that neurotic division always adheres to the precise line of this story, but merely to point to a vivid expression of basic incompatibility of attitudes in relation to others. To approach the problem genetically we must go . back to what I have called basic anxiety,2 meaning by this the feeling a child has of being isolated and helpless in a potentially hostile world. A wide range of adverse factors in the environment can produce this insecurity in a child: direct or indirect domination, indifference, erratic behavior, lack of respect for the child’s individual needs, lack of real guidance, disparaging attitudes, too much admiration or the absence of it, lack of reliable warmth, having to take sides in parental disagreements, too much or too little responsibility, overprotection, isolation from other children, injustice, discrimination, unkept promises, hostile atmosphere, and so on and so on. The only factor to which I should like to draw special attention in this context is the child’s sense of lurking hypocrisy in the environment: his feeling that the parents’ love, their Christian charity, honesty, generosity, and so on may be only pretense. Part of what the child feels on this score is really hypocrisy; but some of it may be just his reaction to all the contradictions he 4————– [2] Karen Horney, The Neurotic Personality of Our Time, W. W. Norton, 1937. ———– 41 senses in the parents’ behavior. Usually, however, there is a combination of cramping factors. They may be out in the open or quite hidden, so that in analysis one can only gradually recognize these influences on the child’s development. Harassed by these disturbing conditions, the child gropes for ways to keep going, ways to cope with this menacing world. Despite his own weakness and fears he unconsciously shapes his tactics to meet the particular forces operating in his environment. In doing so, he develops not only ad hoc strategies but lasting char acter trends which become part of his personality. I have called these “neurotic trends.” If we want to see how conflicts develop, we must not focus too sharply on the individual trends but rather take a panoramic view of the main directions in which a child can and does move under these circumstances. Though we lose sight for a while of details we shall gain a clearer perspective of the essential moves made to cope with the environment. At first a rather chaotic picture may present itself, but out of it in time three main lines crystallize: a child can move toward people, against them, or away from them. When moving toward people he accepts his own helplessness, and in spite of his estrangement and fears triesto win the affection of others and to lean on them. Only in this way can he feel safe with them. If there are dissenting parties in the family, he will attach himself to the most powerful person or group. By complying with them, he gains a feeling of belonging and support which makes him feel less weak and less isolated. When he moves against people he accepts and takes 42 for granted the hostility around him, and determines,  consciously or unconsciously, to fight. He implicitly distrusts the feelings and intentions of others toward himself. He rebels in whatever ways are open to him. He wants to be the stronger and defeat them, partly for his own protection, partly for revenge. When he moves away from people he wants neither to belong nor to fight, but keeps apart. He feels he has , not much in common with them, they do not understand him anyhow. He builds up a world of his ownwith nature, with his dolls, his books, his dreams. In each of these three attitudes, one of the elements involved in basic anxiety is overemphasized: helplessness in the first, hostility in the second, and isolation in the third. But the fact is that the child cannot make any one of these moves wholeheartedly, because under the conditions in which the attitudes develop, all are bound to be present. What we have seen from our panoramic view is only the predominant move. That this is so will become evident if we jump ahead now to the fully developed neurosis. We all know adults in whom one of the attitudes we have sketched stands out. But we can see, too, that his other tendencies have not ceased to operate. In a predominantly leaning and complying type we can observe aggressive propensities and some need for detachment. A predominantly hostile person has a compliant strain and needs detachment too. And a detached personality is not without hostility or a desire for affection. The predominant attitude, however, is the one that  most strongly determines actual conduct. It represents those ways and means of coping with others in which 43 the particular person feels most at home. Thus a detached person will as a matter of course use all the unconscious techniques for keeping others at a safe dlistance because he feels at a loss in any situation that requires close association with them. Moreover, the ascendant attitude is often but not always the one most acceptable to the person’s conscious mind. This does not mean that the less conspicuous attitudes are less powerful. It would often be difficult to say, for instance, whether in an apparently dependent, compliant person the wish to dominate is of inferior intensity to the need for affection; his ways of expressing his aggressive impulses are merely more indirect. That the potency of the submerged tendencies may be very great is evidenced by the many instances in which the attitude accorded predominance is reversed. We can see such reversai in children, but it occurs in later life as well. Strickland in Somerset Maugham’s The Moon and Sixpence would be a good illustration. Case histories of women often reveal this kind of change. A girl formerly tomboyish, ambitious, rebellious, when she falls in love may turn into a compliant, dependent woman, apparently without ambition. Or, under pressure of crushing experiences, a detached person may become morbidly dependent. Changes like these, it should be added, throw some light on the frequent question whether later experience counts for nothing, whether we are definitely channeled, conditioned once and for all, by our childhood situation. Looking at neurotic development from the point of view of conflicts enables us to give a .more adequate answer than is usually offered. These are the possibili- 44 ties: If the early situation is not too prohibitive of spontaneous growth, later experiences, particularly in adolescence, can have a molding influence. If, however, the impact of early experiences has been powerful enough to have molded the child to a rigid pattern, no new experience will be able to break through. In part this is because his rigidity does not leave him open to any new experience: his detachment, for instance, may be too great to permit of anyone’s coming close to him, or his dependence so deep-rooted that he is forced always to play a subordinate role and invite exploitation. In part it is because he will interpret any new experience in the language of his established pattern: the aggressive type, for instance, meeting with friendliness, will view it either as a manifestation of stupidity or an attempt to exploit him; the new experience will tend only to reinforce the old the When a neurotic does adopt a different attitude it may look as if later experiences had brought about a change in personality. However, the change is not as radical as it appears. Actually what has happened is that combined internal and external pressures have forced him to abandon his predominant attitude in favor of the other extreme-but this change would not have taken place if there had been no conflicts to begin with. From the point of view of the normal person there is . no reason why the three attitudes should be mutually exclusive. One should be capable of giving in to others, ,’of fighting, and of keeping to oneself. The three can complement each other and make for a harmonious 45 whole. If one predominates, it merely indicates an overdevelopment along one line. But in neurosis there are several reasons why these attitudes are irreconcilable. The neurotic is not flexible; he is driven to comply, to fight, to be aloof, regardless of whether the move is appropriate in the particular  circumstance, and he is thrown into a panic if he bei haves otherwise. Hence when all three attitudes are present in any strong degree, he is bound to be caught n a severe conflict. Another factor, and one that considerably widens the scope of the conflict, is that the attitudes do not remain restricted to the area of human relationships but gradually pervade the entire personality, as a malignant tumor pervades the whole organic tissue. They end by encompassing not only the person’s relation to others but also his relation to himself and to life in general. If we are not fully aware of this all-embracing character, the temptation is to think of the resulting conflict in categorical terms, like love versus hate, compliance versus defiance, submissiveness versus domination, and so on. That, however, would be as misleading as to distinguish fascism from democracy by focusing on any single opposing feature, such as their difference in approach to religion or power. These are differences certainly, but exclusive emphasis upon them would serve to obscure the point that democracy and fascism are worlds apart and represent two philosophies of life entirely incompatible with each other. It is not accidental that a conflict that starts with our relation to others in time affects the whole personality. Human relationships are so crucial that they are bound 46 to mold the qualities we develop, the goals we set for ourselves, the values we believe in. All these in turn react upon our relations with others and so are inextricably interwoven. My contention is that the conflict born of incompatible attitudes constitutes the core of neurosis and therefore deserves to be called basic. And let me add that I use the term core not merely in the figurative sense of its being significant but to emphasize the fact that it is the dynamic center from which neuroses emanate. This contention is the nucleus of a new theory of neurosis whose implications will become apparent in what follows. Broadly considered, the theory may be viewed as an elaboration of my earlier concept that neuroses are an expression of a disturbance in human relationships . ————- [3] Since the relation to others and the attitude toward the self cannot be separated from one another, the contention occasionally to be found in psychiatric publications, that one or the other of these is the most important factor in theory and practice, is not tenable. ———– [4] This concept was first presented in The Neurotic Personality of Our Time and elaborated in New Ways in Psychoanalysis and Self-Analysis. ———— 47 end ch2 Basic Conflict

Karen Horney.Karen Horney, M.D. Psychoanalyst.

in New York circa: 1940’s.

A legend is, that to be accepted a candidate for training at her training facility was,- that the dog she kept with her in her treatment room had to like you

December 31, 2009

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Sel-AnalysisThe Neurotic Needs According to Karen Horney M,D.

(Rewritten and slightly modified for today’s students and self-analysand’s, who ask, ” Is this possibly true in my case?”)

According to Karen Horney, Authority on Self-Analysis and modernized of psychoanalysis.

Neurotic needs:

Characteristically are compulsive and cause anxiety. These two

characteristics exclude them from those called normal.

The neurotic related needs partly reveal themselves by the features:

Compulsion or inhibition, repetitious occurrence and over time lead to

undesirable personal or social consequences.

“Basic anxiety is the foundation of the neurotic personality”, She

appears to be saying; –to understand neurotic symptoms or behaviors,

one needs to see what it is, that is anxiety generating. Or once in

place a neurotic need or symptom is kept there by the anxiety and

defenses connected with it.

Dr. Horney, also identifies strategies that correspond to these

neurotic needs, which neurotic overloaded persons develop to cope with

their excessive anxiety and feelings of helplessness and loneliness.

These states having been arrived at over time in connection handling

their particular neurotic needs.

Therefor those complaining of neurotic symptoms have arrived at these,

as the end product of conflicts related to one or several of these

neurotic needs or their related issues. At different times in a person’s

life different needs may be the dominant one in conflict. Dr. Horney

avoided use of the word “complex” however, a neurotic need with related

issues, sensitivities, triggers, compulsions and the power to generate

defenses and anxiety could understandably be called a personal complex.

Karen Horney first listed these 10 “neurotic needs” in Self-Analysis,

1942, pp. 51-56.and modified them slightly in later works.

#1

The neurotic need for affection and approval (see her early work “The

Neurotic Personality of Our Time”, Chapter 6,

Here the normal on the need for affection becomes neurotic when it

becomes dominant, excessive, compulsive, repetitious ).

Of course, many variations and modes of expression exist that are not

sexual, (The openly sexual neurotic needs we can approach better when

understand how the smaller neurotic needs operate.)

For example: Such, a lessor part of this meed for some might be an

indiscriminate need to please others and to be liked and approved of by

others.

Smoother nay seem driven compulsively to living up to the expectations

of others and submerging their own beliefs.

There are others, for whom, the need for affection focuses overly on

the cues and emotional signals and even the belief and ideals of their

significant others and exclude any their own,

In some cases it may be the dread of self-assertion that is becomes

formost involved as blocking a hope of satisfaction.

Clinical experience points to the handling of hostility as being a

frequent cause of disturbance in those whom the need for affection is

disturbed neurotically.

For some it is a dread of hostility on the part of others, for some

others, it is the connection to hostile feelings within self.

Few would disagree with the premise that the need for affection is

mixed into everyone’s life, but when out of hand one way or the other

deserves to be called neurotic.

#2

The neurotic need for a “partner” who will take over one’s life (see

New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 15, on masochism,)

Here normal partnering needs are overridden by a compulsively focus on

the “partner,” who is to fulfill all expectations of life and take

responsibility for good and evil, his/her successful manipulation [of

this partner] becoming the predominant task; and connected is the

[rationalized] overvaluation of “love” because “love” is supposed to

solve all problems.

The psychology of normal love much less love neurotic, is individual

and not the same for all. In some cases, it stand out that the dread of

desertion is frightening or even sometimes a dread of being on one’s own

in life are serious anxiety causing. Such dreads usually relates to

both a persons childhood experiences and the very real dangers of

separation or change in the present. To ignore such real dangers is just

as ‘neurotic’ as any over concern may be.

#3

The neurotic need to restrict one’s life within narrow borders:

This need is strongly conditioned by a personas social and life

situation, yet each one has to find a place for himself that becomes an

extension of himself. Yet for many it is clear that in there particular

case, they close off there potential for reasonable use of their

potentials do to what are mostly compulsive inhibitions and thus a

neurotic event in the life of that person.

For some this “Neurotic Need” may appear in some other substitute forms,

such as the necessity to be undemanding and contented with little, and

to restrict ambitions and wishes for material things; (a compulsion,

often overlooked item on many psychological inventories) or may exist

as a compulsive ‘necessity’ to remain inconspicuous and to take second

place; often with tendency to self-belittling their good faculties and

potentialities, with a exaggerated modesty.

For some it also connects to a compulsive urge to save rather than to

spend or even to self-sacrifice for your family. friends, country.

There Ia a type that shows a dread of making any demands. Some may

dread having to start or follow through on asserting reasonable or

clearly necessary needs and rights. Occasionally there may occur a

revolt and curious inclination reversals, which seem out of the blue.

#4

. The neurotic need for power and control: ( The Neurotic Personality

of Our Time, Chapter 10, on the need for power, prestige, and

possession): [See also A. Adler'sviews on the importance of a 'power

drive.]

Here it is, that domination over others appears to be craved for its

own sake; It may take several forms, not always obvious such as an

excessive and compulsive devotion to cause, duty, responsibility, a

maintained and open exaggerated respect for some selected model

person or an equal disrespect for ‘others’. This neurotic manipulation

uses several modes of attack aimed at discrediting these others; their

individuality, their dignity, their feelings, the only concern being

their subordination in the exchange.

Some appear to have adoration only for strength and are ready to show

contempt and loathing for any sigh of weakness in others and at times

in any weakness showing in their own self. Compulsive control issues

are common and extends even a dread of uncontrollable situations. Some

may dread anything, situating them as even momentarily helplessness.

The neurotic need to control aspect encompasses both, oneself and

others and may indirectly assert by use of reason and foresight as a

kind of comparmentalized image and role playing and thus not openly

showing the deeper domination goal. This rationalization procedure may

be useful for those who are too inhibited as to exert power directly

and openly.

Those with the power and control, neurotic striving, as domminent,

often offer a strong belief in the omnipotence of intelligence and

reason and deny the power of emotional forces and have contempt for

them in themselves as well as others. At times, they dread and reject

any recognizing of limitations to the power of reason. A feeling of

fortitude may be gained from the belief in the magic power of will

(like possession of a wishing ring as if reality itself is to change

because they wish it so.)

#5

The neurotic need to exploit others and by hook or crook get the better

of them, others are evaluated primarily according to whether or not

they can be exploited or made use of. While not every person shows this

need openly, there are some in which it permeates every thing they

think of and shapes thier behaviour.

Characteristicly these persons size on various foci of

exploitation-money (bargaining amounts, deals with passion), but extend

this inclination to aspects of profession, money, sexuality, followed

by an appearent pride in theeir exploitative skills. Not uncommonly,

from time to time, they are overtaken with a dread of being exploited

by others.

#6

The neurotic need for social recognition or prestige (may or may not be

combined with a craving for power and other neurotic needs.)

For many this is a socialy conditioned and recognized desire which

meets many blockages from ones iamage of the self within and the

standards of relality externally. Under the compulive push of the

reccognition/prestege neurotic need ,secondary things take on

exagerated value-partly inanimate objects, money, clothers, cars even

selected pretege reresenting persons. Sometimes it also siezes on very

inflated valuing of one’s own qualities, activities, and feelings. With

the result that everything becomes evaluated and accpted according to

their prestige enhansing values.

Some may turn to rebellious or do exagerated ways of inciting

attention, envy or admiration. Some ovver-eacting aspects may be

triggered by when these values are challenged. The concepts of losing

face, , status, suffering any humiliation or insult takes on an

exagerated obcessional quality,

#7

The neurotic need for personal admiration: Inflated image of self

(narcissism); This neurotic need for personal admiration to recognizing

it and separate it from parts of need #6 above, one has to here

recognixe the dominance is not of things external per se, but dominace

from the very core of neurotic personality. {In Dr. Horney’s View THE

GLOIFIED SELF IMAGE}

It is not the need to be admired for what one possesses or presents in

the public eye but for the imagined self.

It is self-evaluation and self navigation dependent on living up to

this ‘Glorifed’image and thesearh for glory has at main purpose, the

admiration of it by others;

Dread of losing admiration. Here the triggers to humiliation can be

diverse and set off by very some and unintented slights or even

compliments that fail to carry desired key words).

#8

he neurotic ambition for personal achievement: Need to surpass others

not through what one presents or is but through one’s activities;The

need stands our from normal competive encourament common to industrial

socieies in that moven from a practical and resonable intention to

being a dominent need where

a preson’s self-evaluation is dependent on being not only on being

adiquate in his chosen obectives

but compulsivly uses this mode of self-evaluation in place of noram;

ballanced handling and coping modes. than any other, and extends it to

use as near universal in his way of thinking and feeling,

His standards require he be the very best-lover, sportsman, writer,

worker-(particularly in his own mind and not necisariily in fact), The

recognition by others being vital to him, and its absence is strongly

resented.

Over time the misdirection and frusttion caused by the tendency will

trigger reaction formation, such as a mixture of destructive

tendencies, toward the defeat of others, alienation or self lothing

In time the relentless driving of self to greater achievements, though

with it’s acompaning pervasive anxiety may cause a self-made inner

shift to realistic accomidation or failinf this a breakdown.

#9

The neurotic need for self-sufficiency and independence:

Some aspects of the need touches the other dominent neurotic needs.

Those whom have it a their dom inent need generally are aware that

something is not right in respect to how the relate to others. The

diletic issues most people navigate with compromise and adaptation such

as issues of complance, bonding to significant others. loyalty appear

to be sidesptepped or compulsivly avoided. Their phlyosophy seems to

bel It is necessity never to need anybody, or to yield to any

influence, or to be tied down to anything, any closeness involving the

danger of enslavement; Distance and separateness the only source of

security; Dread of needing others, of ties, of closeness, of love.

#10

The neurotic need for perfection and unassailability. Certainly the

perfection tendency, when full blown makes life difficult for this type

and any who are close to them. When you add the defensive attitude as

equally dominant - the one of unassailability, this type defines itself

as type.

(see New Ways in Psychoanalysis, Chapter 13, on the super-ego, and

Freud’s description of a ‘harsh

super-ego”

Here the overdrive for a relentless pursuit for perfection overrides

and may indeed hite other important personality features normal and

neurotic. The self-analyst in particular may have difficulty getting

past this domination and moving on to productive content. This analytic

impasse generally takes the form of a persitent rumination and

self-recriminations regarding possible flaws that may have been

overlord or improperly analyzed or given a flawed interpretation. These

self-analysand excell at this resistance to their w satisfaction, of

course.

Whenever the issue seems to relate to one’s feelings of superiority

over others, it is because of being so perfect, there is the dread of

finding flaws within self or of making mistakes, of receiving criticism

or reproach, that cuts away at his glorified self image.

Note: In this rewrite I may have put Dr. Horney’s list through

distortions she would have objected to. Never the less I excuse myself

because the revised list will be more useful to today’s self-analysts.

The words “Neurotic” and “Conflict” are not DSM IV terms, nevertheless

to avoid using them, one has to draw together longer combinations of

words or ignore historic usage.

–Chirobut

Later: Neurotic Things- Pride, Glory, Your should’s, Repression, Basic

Conflicts, Anxiety.

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Rewritten with appology to Dr. Horney 12-31-09

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Put “Neurotic Needs” in the subject. It is till open the re-write and if you can say it better let me know. Also, calling certain neurotic inclinations, “needs” may be misleading or even semantic wrong. How about calling them “micro-complexes or “crappy adjustment causers”.

–Chrirobut

December 29, 2009

New Year’s Resolution: Analyze Yourself?

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flash card:
It you decide to self-analyze, it follows, you need:

1. Understand the procedures

2. Produce content to utilize.

3. Develop and expand these associations as personal content unfolds,
(Some have to practice this in order to get comfortable with it and make progress.)

Don’t try to remember this. It will stick in your mind relative to what it
means to you. The Editor here is NOT a Mental Health Professional and claims no benefits, except if you make the passage correctly you might be a better person, as a result.

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December 28, 2009

Self Analysis as Self Help.

Use The Blogroll Search for Hidden Content.
Self-Analysis Advocate: Dr. Karen Horney, Asked- “What do unresolved

conflicts do to our energies, our integrity, and our happiness?

She offers this explanation: Living with unresolved conflicts involves

primarily a devastating waste of human energies, occasioned not only by

the conflicts themselves but by all the devious attempts to remove

them.

When a person is so divided that he can never put his

energies wholeheartedly as to satisfy his basic needs and the needs of

society jointly and effectively, as the important things he wants to

pursue are sabotaged by divisive and incompatible goals.

This means that he will either scatter his energies or

actively frustrate his efforts. This is true of persons whose idealized

image, [drives him/her] to neurotic solutions.

Do You want to know how?

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